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Evan Johnson
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« Reply #195 on: 17:16:47, 26-07-2007 »

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They would have six children together; sons Elliott (b.1896-1900) and Carol (1902-1940) and daughters Lesley (b.1899), Irma (b.1903), Marjorie (b.1905-1934), and Elinor Bettina (1907-1907).
the five daughters of Robert Frost
Five daughters or four? According to your sourec Carol Frost would seem to have been a man! Wink

Carol was a man.  He suffered from severe depression, especially after the premature death of his mother from breast cancer, and killed himself at age 37.
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« Reply #196 on: 18:26:57, 26-07-2007 »

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They would have six children together; sons Elliott (b.1896-1900) and Carol (1902-1940) and daughters Lesley (b.1899), Irma (b.1903), Marjorie (b.1905-1934), and Elinor Bettina (1907-1907).
the five daughters of Robert Frost
Five daughters or four? According to your source Carol Frost would seem to have been a man.
Oops! I can't count, obviously! (ah, well - I am only a composer). More haste, less concurrent speeds, methinks. Sorry about that!

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« Reply #197 on: 18:46:07, 26-07-2007 »


Oops! I can't count, obviously! (ah, well - I am only a composer). More haste, less concurrent speeds, methinks. Sorry about that!



...fewer?
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« Reply #198 on: 18:52:05, 26-07-2007 »

...or perhaps less concurrent speed...
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« Reply #199 on: 20:15:47, 26-07-2007 »

Pedants! Love 'em!  Grin
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« Reply #200 on: 20:54:41, 26-07-2007 »


Oops! I can't count, obviously! (ah, well - I am only a composer). More haste, less concurrent speeds, methinks. Sorry about that!



...fewer?
Of course "fewer" is correct if the plural of "speed" is used, as well I knew before writing this; I nevertheless used the word "less" in that specific context only because (as surely you'll recognise) it is part of the cliché "more haste, less speed" which I inelegantly adapted for the purpose here, pluralising "speed" to fit the case where Elliott Carter has oft been concerned.

Any more apologies required in respect of anything else here? Please let me know if so and I'll duly consider them and make them if appropriate.

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Alistair
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« Reply #201 on: 20:57:30, 26-07-2007 »

...or perhaps less concurrent speed...
No, Stuart - not here; the phrase "concurrent speeds" was used in this admittedly en passant context to denote the idea of different speeds occurring simultaneously, as sometimes they do in Elliott C.'s work.

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(your compatriot) Alistair
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« Reply #202 on: 21:08:53, 26-07-2007 »

Any more apologies required in respect of anything else here? Pease let me know if so

Depends how you are with slips of the finger... Wink
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« Reply #203 on: 23:03:44, 26-07-2007 »

...or perhaps less concurrent speed...
No, Stuart - not here;

Sorry - (I was playfully implying something more chemical in nature... Roll Eyes)
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« Reply #204 on: 07:31:26, 27-07-2007 »

Any more apologies required in respect of anything else here? Pease let me know if so

Depends how you are with slips of the finger... Wink
At that I'm an unsung hero of virtuosity, no less. Typos a speciality; also keys cut (sorry - that's an adapted borrowing from my rather terrible "Matthews Bros: String Quartets While U Wait - Also Keys Cut")...

Anyway, what the "l" are you talking about? I was merely suggesting that abit of ap"pease"ment on my part might not come amiss (wrote he conveniently, trying but inelegantly failing to wriggle out of his latest typo)...

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Alistair
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« Reply #205 on: 07:37:20, 27-07-2007 »

...or perhaps less concurrent speed...
No, Stuart - not here;

Sorry - (I was playfully implying something more chemical in nature... Roll Eyes)
Hmmm. I thought that this might have been the case but preferred to overlook that possibility in the present context...

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Alistair
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« Reply #206 on: 09:25:52, 27-07-2007 »

different sppeds
Sorry, I can't resist! Wink
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« Reply #207 on: 09:30:57, 27-07-2007 »

different sppeds
Sorry, I can't resist! Wink
Nor can I, apparently! These "sppeds", incidentally (continuing and developing my newly established tradition of contriving excuses for typographical errors, each such excuse and such error lamer than the last) are - as all advanced musicologists know - "specific pedal points" and have a particular significance in Elliott Carter's work, most especially in the Bassoon Concerto that he began on Monday of this week and completed early on Wednesday morning, hopefully in time to send off the score to Ollie non Sudden so that he can receive it before the UK mail strikes recommence...

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« Reply #208 on: 09:40:56, 27-07-2007 »

Incidentally, I was surprised that my little bit of news:
since finishing his Horn Concerto (just 2 or 3 months ago, I think?) Carter has written ... wait for it ... a 15-minute piano concerto for Daniel Barenboim, three part-songs to texts by John Ashbery, a 70-bar solo oboe piece for Heinz Holliger's birthday, a clarinet quintet, a piece for solo flute, and something else (solo vocal I think).
didn't cause more comment!

(I've now remembered that the something else is a piece for strings which according to my source is 'all texture', which sounds very unusual indeed for Carter. Apparently he said to Carter that it looked like late Feldman and all Carter replied was, 'That's right.' Although that seems unlikely to me somehow ...)
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« Reply #209 on: 09:55:49, 27-07-2007 »

Well, I meant to comment, but it slipped my mind! That, I think we'd all agree, is a phenomenal rate of production. It would be for a 20/30-something-year-old. But given his age, and given the sort of quality we can reasonably expect these pieces to be, it's nothing short of scary.  Shocked
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