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The piece that started me off was Mantra for two pianos and what would now be called "live electronics", whose original (and still my favourite) recording, by Alfons and Aloys Kontarsky is available from the Stockhausen-Verlag. There are others, of which the Ellen Corver/Sepp Grotenhuis is the best I've heard.
I don't know the Kontakte by Fredrik Ullén and Jonny Axelsson, but they are both fantastic musicians and I'm sure it would be worth a try.
Yes, the Kontarskys really were a most amazing duo; in fact, I never heard anything they played that was less than compelling music-making. Best, Alistair |
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Any thoughts on the Mikhashoff-Bevan-Ørsted recording of Mantra?
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Any thoughts on the Mikhashoff-Bevan-Ørsted recording of Mantra?
I heard it once only and I don't remember anything about it except that I didn't want to hear it again. |
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« Reply #18 on: 09:10:18, 26-06-2007 » |
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Any thoughts on the Mikhashoff-Bevan-Ørsted recording of Mantra?
I heard it once only and I don't remember anything about it except that I didn't want to hear it again. Snappp -- good enough for me. Who's next? |
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« Reply #19 on: 09:17:26, 26-06-2007 » |
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The comments on the Stockhausen site, re. the New Albion disc, are pretty negative too. It is also claimed there that KS's favourite recording is that mentioned by Richard. What a pity it is so difficult to track down a copy.  |
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« Reply #20 on: 10:37:30, 26-06-2007 » |
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Any thoughts on the Mikhashoff-Bevan-Ørsted recording of Mantra?
The positioning/recording of the electronics is done in such a way that much of the time the pianos sound almost like 'pure electronics'; the whole interplay between relatively 'normal' piano timbre and its varying modifications is lost (I think this may be due to having the speakers too low - I heard a live performance where the same thing happened). I have that, the Kontarskys, and Corver/Grotenhuis (haven't heard the Wyttenbach's recording) - probably like the last one most, but it's quite difficult to get old of. |
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« Reply #21 on: 18:24:54, 26-06-2007 » |
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Many thanks for all the information and links. I'll be on the phone to HMV in a minute to order one or more. (I have never actually used amazon.)
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I took part in a performance of Stockhausen's Trans; all the parts came from Stockhausen Verlag, and we even had to return the clips for fastening the music onto the string player's backs.
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« Reply #23 on: 18:55:22, 28-06-2007 » |
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My friend is going to order it on Amazon for me, as HMV cannot supply it.
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« Reply #24 on: 22:15:35, 28-06-2007 » |
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I ordered this from Amazon recently. Does anyone know it? I can't afford the 7 CD set from Stockhausen Verlag of the full Aus den Sieben Tagen, so I thought that this (in combination with a couple of LPs I've got - Unlimited and IT) might help me to approach the score at a deeper level. |
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« Reply #25 on: 22:24:55, 28-06-2007 » |
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Got it a couple of days ago, hh. KS playing with his knobs in the control room, Aloys Kontarsky on the Joanna, etc. You can't go too far wrong with that, can you? Recorded in 1969 in Paris.
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« Reply #26 on: 22:51:11, 28-06-2007 » |
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Yes, it's a fine recording. I must get around to acquiring the 7 CD set some time, all (!) I have is the LPs.
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« Reply #27 on: 23:32:27, 28-06-2007 » |
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Thirded, hh,
I think I've had this one for years (it's also possibly missing from a library somewhere...)
Without assuming much authority on the matter, I have always found it a very engaging and distinctive performance.
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« Reply #28 on: 00:07:57, 29-06-2007 » |
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I ordered this from Amazon recently. Does anyone know it? I can't afford the 7 CD set from Stockhausen Verlag of the full Aus den Sieben Tagen, so I thought that this (in combination with a couple of LPs I've got - Unlimited and IT) might help me to approach the score at a deeper level. Hi HH, Yes, I have this...as part of a 3 CD set with Boulez and Berio as the other 2/3rds...very fine set all in. Don't think the trilogy is still available though...(you can often find them, as you have on amazon, as individual CDs for £5, a deal indeed. Except that the trilogy cost me £10 in total, 7 years ago...  ). The Stockhausen recording is, as everyone else has observed, very fine indeed... |
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« Reply #29 on: 00:14:58, 29-06-2007 » |
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a 3 CD set with Boulez and Berio as the other 2/3rds What is that, Biroc? Domaines and Laborintus II? (If so, def not avail as a set any more, though the individual discs definitely are.) |
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