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« Reply #15 on: 05:28:23, 05-01-2008 »

Including the 3rd Piano Concerto which was premiered at the Oxford Bach Festival in 1969. 3 pianists were used for that gig - Binns, Smalley + someone else I've forgotten.
Ronald Lumsden, I think.

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Alistair

Thomas Rajna, I think.
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« Reply #16 on: 19:46:39, 06-01-2008 »



32 piano pieces (1940) on BIS played by Nikolaos Samaltanos.

This is an exciting find and highly recommended - provided that you get on OK with the "freely atonal". Having said that, the language is highly consistent, relatively easy to get on with and seems rational with no hint of "wrong-notedness". Mind you, the friend who sent me the recordings was similarly excited and he's no fan of 20th century modernism, but is very much a fan of piano music (especially virtuosic) of the 19th and early 20th centuries. Still a bit mystifying though considering what Skalkottas said about these pieces (freely translated by Leo Black).

"This piano music is for special occasions: recitals with new original pieces, or to develop a new line of virtuosity . . .One could also try to develop a new way of playing - a more modern technique as it were - to suit the idea of the composition and the musical material presented. I would recommend a technique based on short, clear, rounded harmonies 'heard beforehand' and on imagination, though this must lead neither to near-misses nor to mere velocity. As far as possible the pedal should used little and intelligently; the piano is a small instrument and must not be misused in hopes of an orchestral sound. . ." [my emphasis].

Lasting 90 minutes or so, this is a work in 32 movements rather than a collection of 32 pieces and if the sleeve note (by Christophe Sirodeau) is to be believed, has a detailed overall plan thick with Golden Sections, references between the pieces and so on. Skalkottas was not a "composer-pianist" (he was expected by some to become a major violinist). In his early period he wrote very little piano music: words from his lips to the effect of "Nowadays [presumably late 1920s] one can write piano music only a la Debussy or Schoenberg, and since they've done it best themselves, it's better to leave it alone." Debussy? He certainly doesn't go there. Strange that he didn't mention Busoni, especially since he studied with Weill and Jarnach (both Busoni pupils) in the mid-1920s and also since the general colour and language sometimes suggests an area between Schoenberg and Busoni. But in the end, mentioning other composers seems like grasping at straws. E.g., no 16 - Nightpiece - could be described as seeming to lie somewhere between Bartok and Sorabji without the decoration; that might be useful as an indication but isn't as a description. These pieces are thoroughly individual in style and as probably as good an example as any by this composer. Perhaps it's not surprising - from 1921-33 he was in Berlin and therefore in a position to see/hear much of what the culture of that time had offer. from 1933 onwards, he was completely isolated from anything remotely modern; he probably saw a couple of Schoenberg scores (piano concerto + 4th quartet) after WW2 and that was about it.

I could talk about individual pieces, but I'll resist the temptation except to say that my friend likened no. 4 - Catastrophe in the jungle to Xenakis in its apparently incoherent virtuosity - and I don't blame him. There are some amusing atonal jazz numbers in the second half as well.

10 of these pieces are published by UE. There's another recorded performance from Idith Meshulam and here are some clips.

http://www.amazon.com/Nikos-Skalkottas-32-Piano-Pieces/dp/samples/B000255LUW/ref=dp_tracks_all_1

There are some pretty severe differences in timings between her and Samaltanos e.g.,
                                          NS                    IM
1 - Andante religioso              5:14                  4:18
4 - Catastrophe in the jungle   1:26                  2:26
6 - Reverie in the old style      3:27                  2:33
9 - Marcia funebre                 4:15                  3:06
16 - Night music                    7:17                  4:11
17 - Morning serenade of the
                         little maid    1:15                  2:25
19 - Etude phantastique         1:27                  2:13
26 - Slow fox                        2:30                  4:04

In other words, Samaltanos plays the fast ones (much) faster + the slow ones slower. Judging by what I'm able to compare, Samaltanos is definitely the one to go for.
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« Reply #17 on: 20:30:41, 12-01-2008 »

More Skalkottas hit my doormat today. [Incidentally, tinners, it was your reply #2 (+ #6) which made me dig out old recordings and find some more recent CDs. Thanks for that! I'm well and truly hooked now.]

36 Greek dances.

These are orchestral and thoroughly tonal - no hint of the atonal/serial here, although there are a few happily indulged harmonic clashes here and there. The set is not deliberately populist (such as his late tonal piano concertino for instance); nor is it "hack" work. Many of these dances would not perhaps strike one as being much out of the ordinary. But I'm far more impressed with these than I expected to be - and I've lived with old recordings of about a dozen of them since the 1970s. They're not simply arrangements of folk tunes: indeed, it may be that many of the actual melodies were freely invented by Skalkottas in folk dance style. In some ways there's not a world of difference between these and the kind of symphonic dances written by Albanian composers in the period c.1960-80. Except that from about the 3rd or 4th dance onwards one becomes increasingly aware of the quality of the orchestration - which is highly expert. (He did write a treatise on orchestration - don't know if it's ever been translated). Given the apparently mundane context, some rather striking things happen, particularly as regards horns (always idiomatic especially in the extreme high register), trombones (much more to the fore than one would expect) and contrabassoon (joyfully exposed).

This is the same composer who wrote those 32 piano pieces I raved about a few days back. Difficult to believe.
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« Reply #18 on: 20:49:48, 12-01-2008 »

Having instigated this thread and not posted a word on it since, I'd better say that I've been reading auto's contributions with much interest and will be seeking out some more.
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« Reply #19 on: 20:54:44, 12-01-2008 »

Thanks BobbyZ - the CD you mentioned is due for a listen soon.
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« Reply #20 on: 11:44:50, 13-01-2008 »

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« Reply #21 on: 15:01:16, 13-01-2008 »

More Skalkottas hit my doormat today. [Incidentally, tinners, it was your reply #2 (+ #6) which made me dig out old recordings and find some more recent CDs. Thanks for that! I'm well and truly hooked now.]
You're welcome! Reply #6 still stands ...
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« Reply #22 on: 15:53:42, 13-01-2008 »

It's been interesting comparing the BIS recording of the violin concerto (with Georgios Demertzis) with the recording of an early performance by Yfrah Neaman in 1965. Neaman does well, but it's a bit of a struggle, especially in the first movement. Demertzis is most impressive, the violin part sounding even more  difficult than it does in Neaman's performance. I don't have any sleeve notes to hand, but the writing seems absolutely consistent with some comments made by John Papaioannou about Skalkottas's own playing:-

"His most unusual way of playing the violin was characterized by an exceptionally pure and disembodied sound, with almost no vibrato. Yet it was exceptionally warm and always mathematically precise, even in the wildest passages in his own work".


And from another source, the same writer, who accompanied him in a performance of the 4th Sonatina at a private gathering in 1942:-

"His technique was unusual; vibrato was almost non-existent, or extremely slow; the sound had the purity of a flute, yet was deeply expressive; the technique was breathtaking: the rapid passages gave the impression of lightning . . ."

I don't know if this approach is as unusual as Papaioannou suggests: I'll see if any of our colleagues on the violin/viola threads can enlighten.

The orchestration sounds somewhat more transparent than it does on the 1965 version, no doubt because it's better played. But it does allow the violin to "sing" - this is Skalkottas at his most lyrical. It doesn't seem opaque any more - but the second movement is still the favourite.
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« Reply #23 on: 16:54:57, 13-01-2008 »

I assume there are NO extant recordings of Skalkottas' playing.
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« Reply #24 on: 17:38:02, 13-01-2008 »

I assume there are NO extant recordings of Skalkottas' playing.

I suspect not. There is a Skalkottas archive in Athens, but I think Papaioannou would have mentioned if there were any recordings to be heard. (His notes for the 4-record box set I mentioned earlier has an extensive bibliography - now well out of date, of course). He reckons that the 4th Sonatina performance was the only time that one of his works was performed in Greece before his death. There's a duo for violin and viola which he no doubt played through with a sympathetic and supportive viola player from the Athens Orchestra, but whether or not it was played even privately . . . As for anything recorded in Berlin pre-1933 . . . ?
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« Reply #25 on: 18:04:51, 19-01-2008 »

I've always had a bit of a problem with classical (or classically-inspired) variation form. It's not easy to pinpoint why in the face of many exceptions to the rule - Alkan's Le festin d'Esope and the second movement of Rachmaninov's D minor piano trio are examples which come readily to mind. Skalkottas is rather fond of classical forms: The return of Ulysses is a large sonata form movement and the Largo Sinfonico (a 20-odd minute movement of the c.75-minute 2nd Symphonic Suite) is apparently a combination of variation and sonata forms. But it's the shorter Skalkottas variation form movements which are less convincing. The 15 Little Variations is an early 12-note piano work dating from before he studied with Schoenberg. Well spoken of, but rather tiresome apart from variation 13 which - er - goes disconcertingly "disco". And the 8 Variations on a Greek folk tune (actually Skalkottas's own) for piano trio seems even more annoying with its cluttered textures, counterpoint which tries too hard and a generally unfriendly general resonance. No such problem in the short Passacaglia from the 32 piano pieces: it helps that it doesn't make it obvious that it's a passacaglia.
It's down to how it's done, of course. The return of Ulysses has extensive areas of complex fugato which are delightful and it doesn't sound anywhere near as cluttered. The whole thing sounds pretty translucent to me - probably thanks to the decent performance (this is the BIS recording). Peter Heyworth, reviewing in 1969, remarked that "The orchestral writing is murky . . . [there is] much that is laboured and clumsy". I find his comment pretty puzzling. Incidentally, it's a safe bet that if you warm to the Charles Ives of the first section of Washington's Birthday, then you'll get on with a Skalkottas slow orchestral movement: the beginning of Ulysses and the 2nd movement of the violin concerto both have moments very close to the Ives. Given the evidence of Ulysses, the Largo Sinfonico and the violin concerto, I'd like to hear more of his orchestral music.

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« Reply #26 on: 15:27:48, 28-01-2008 »

I've just come across some clips from the 3rd + 4th quartets.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00004SYCL/ref=cm_rdp_product_img

I had a score of the 4th in front of me and the playing from the New Hellenic Quartet seems quite staggering.
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« Reply #27 on: 03:53:47, 03-02-2008 »

I've just noticed the following event on Friday 8th February, 6.00-7.30 in the David Josefowitz concert hall at the Royal Academy of Music in London.

A concert-presentation entitled "The extraordinary work of Nikos Skalkottas, violinist composer" by George Zacharias. This focusses on the early solo violin sonata and the Duo for violin and cello.

I think I'll go + check this out. It's free.
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« Reply #28 on: 08:05:15, 09-02-2008 »

Zacharias is a pretty competent violinist who's researching Skalkottas (good to know that someone is) at the Royal Academy of Music. This was more of a concert than a presentation, the two Skalkottas works being padded out with a performance of the Bartok solo violin sonata. The relevance of this last work to Skalkottas escaped me, but, for purposes of comparison, it seemed to confirm how idiomatic Skalkottas's violin writing actually is. I did find Zacharias's intonation, internal clock and sense of continuity a bit dodgy - not criticisms I'd level at the cellist (Paulos Carvalho) who joined him for a performance of the 1947 Duo, a substantial and impressive 4-movement work.
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« Reply #29 on: 12:27:56, 24-02-2008 »




I've just come across some clips from the 3rd + 4th quartets.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00004SYCL/ref=cm_rdp_product_img

I had a score of the 4th in front of me and the playing from the New Hellenic Quartet seems quite staggering.

The CD arrived yesterday and yes, the playing is indeed pretty staggering. And fast, when it needs to be. I may have already mentioned that I have suspected that early Skalkottas performances may have suffered through insufficiently fast tempi (eg., certain of the 32 Piano Pieces), especially in comparison to recent BIS recordings. The monumental 4th Quartet comes in here at under 38 minutes. Papaioannou, whose writing on Skalkottas is always enthusiastic if rather exaggerated, has stated that early performances lasted over an hour. The New Hellenic Quartet does a breathtaking job on the 3 fast movements - and they seem quite fast enough - but their speeds are still some way under the indicated metronome marks. The 1st movement (Allegro molto vivace) would be quite impossible at crotchet = 120 and the 4th movement (Allegro giusto) would hardly be "e ben ritmato" at minim = 150-160. I assume these are the composer's indications: at least the 3rd movement (Presto) is spared a bpm. But more on the 4th when I've had chance to follow it with a score.

The 3rd dates from 1935. Both quartets are 12-note, but the 3rd is an early example of what seems to be a reformulated approach to 12-note writing (there's not much 12-note stuff in the years before he left Berlin). The general sound is rather more severe and profound than earlier. There are 3 movements and the whole work lasts about 20 minutes. The relationship between apparent consonance and dissonance is interesting: there is quite a bit of counterpoint and most of it is remarkably clean-sounding - well, it does help when this sort of music is played in tune. On the other hand , there are dense and dissonant (and on occasion, clustery-sounding) homophonic areas. It's the first movement where this polarisation is strongest; the second movement is altogether more mysterious, areas of sparse 2- or 3-part writing predominating - and there are chords which are triadic and minor which, given the context, should perhaps sound out of place but don't. The 3rd movement seems lighter and less concentrated, more varied and dancey. The sleeve note suggests a more evident debt to Mahler "with regard both to the breadth of the construction and to the nature of the dance rhythms". Hmmm. Don't really get that. Impressive stuff, nonetheless.
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