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« Reply #15 on: 16:34:13, 18-03-2008 »
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« Reply #16 on: 17:56:30, 18-03-2008 »
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When I looked up Jón Leifs in my University Library Catalog, he didn't appear under Leifs, Jón. He only appeared under the heading Jón Leifs. What's that all about? Is Jón not his first name?

Well I have heard that in Iceland e.g. the phone book lists everyone by first name since the surname is pretty much a patronymic - most people's second name is something-son or something-dottir so maybe it's some sort of bibliographic standard for Icelanders (of course in the case of many Asian names, the name traditionally given first is actually the family name)
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« Reply #17 on: 18:54:37, 18-03-2008 »
I think we need the services of Mr Tony Watson for this, if my memory serves me aright.
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« Reply #18 on: 18:58:32, 18-03-2008 »
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I think we need the services of Mr Tony Watson for this, if my memory serves me aright.

Yes, the honourable member who owns an Icelandic translation of The Hobbit! Cool
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« Reply #19 on: 23:09:18, 21-03-2008 »
Quote from: David_Underdown on 17:56:30, 18-03-2008
I have heard that in Iceland e.g. the phone book lists everyone by first name since the surname is pretty much a patronymic - most people's second name is something-son or something-dottir
The second part of that statement is true (although Leifs is obviously an exception) but I don't see how the first follows: it's neither more nor less easy to order people alphabetically by what is effectively their father's Christian name than it is by their own Christian name, surely Huh Huh
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« Reply #20 on: 12:30:04, 28-03-2008 »
Having done a bit more digging http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Icelandic_name

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In Iceland, directories of people's names, such as the telephone directory, are alphabetised by given name, not by surname. To reduce ambiguity, the phone books go further, naming professions.

Icelanders formally address others by their given names. For example, former prime minister Halldór Ásgrímsson would not be addressed as Ásgrímsson or Mr. Ásgrímsson by another Icelander; he would either be addressed only by his given name or his full name. The cultural meaning of an Icelander's last name is not that it is a part of one's name, but a short description of who one is.
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The article also explains that some family names do exist - Leifs is presumably one such.
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« Reply #21 on: 09:24:49, 30-03-2008 »
Quote from: Bryn on 01:49:12, 17-03-2008
Just ordered the SACD of Edda Part I, ... . Wink

Having very much enjoyed listening to Edda Part 1, I emailed BIS to thank them for recording it, and to ask if Part 2 was in the pipeline. It is, but I am advised that it will be a rather long pipe, due to the need to get parts copied, etc.

Now, who'd like to take on the task of editing and completing Part 3, and composing Part 4? Wink
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« Reply #22 on: 10:32:37, 16-11-2008 »
It didn't occur to me until this morning to see if Leifs' 5-minute Requiem (1947) is on youtube - and it is! Some academic would probably describe it as 'proto-minimalism': pity Tavener didn't learn a thing or two here. Those who've heard the 2nd string quartet may recognise it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwCkVqUhX78
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« Reply #23 on: 11:50:35, 16-11-2008 »
How good to see a thread here about Leifs, who IMO wrote some extremely moving and beautiful music and who deserves to be far better known.
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