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George Garnett
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« Reply #15 on: 13:41:59, 10-04-2007 »
Oh dear. What would now be most helpful to restore our joint and individual dignity? Opening it again, or leaving it? Tell you what, I'll close it and then we can delete these messages and the surface of the pond will be as smooth as if nothing had ever happened.
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« Reply #16 on: 13:44:35, 10-04-2007 »
Quote from: George Garnett on 13:41:59, 10-04-2007
the surface of the pond will be as smooth as if nothing had ever happened
Except for one less duck on the surface of the earth ...

Nah, let's leave them and let our gentle readers only surmise what parenthetical meddlings might have obscured their original denotation Wink

And it's S/Z, by the way. Or should that be 'S/Z'? Not 's/z' (or '"s/z"'), anyway ...
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« Reply #17 on: 15:13:41, 10-04-2007 »
I was excited to find this link http://books.google.ie/books?vid=ISBN9682309980&id=JW6AS0whvkIC&pg=PP1&lpg=PP1&ots=XVyQ6qAe9w&dq=S/Z%27+(or+is+it+%27s/z%27%3F+by+Roland+Barthes&sig=Xb8DfPj4KeWaPZTO4FrixPw4yCo#PPP11,M1
However, it is not in English. I think it is in Spanish.
I don't know what kind of book is it and what it is about.
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« Reply #18 on: 15:46:41, 10-04-2007 »
Yes, that's a Spanish translation, t-p. Here's the English one (it was originally written in French):

http://www.amazon.co.uk/S-Z-Essay-Roland-Barthes/dp/0374521670/ref=pd_ecc_rvi_2/203-0733541-3225529?ie=UTF8&qid=1176216043&sr=1-2

What kind of book is it? A pretty unique one. What's it about? Well, it's about Balzac; castrati; men who are like women (or not like women); the differences between men and women; the differences between the letter S and the letter Z; stories, and language, and how language works in telling stories; and (as they say in adverts) lots, lots more!

Happy Easter, by the way. I think it was also Orthodox Easter yesterday, although I haven't spoken to my Russian friend recently so I'm not sure.
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« Reply #19 on: 16:22:51, 10-04-2007 »
Thank you t_is-now. May be I can ask our city library to buy this book. They have money now. Is there something there about Irish composers (Macconchy?). This would be helpful.


This is very special year. Catholic and Orthodox Easter is at the same time. Also Jewish passover coinsides. May be we live in a special time.
Happy Easter to you. My Russian friends did not invite us this time for Easter  Angry
On the other hand I had to practice the whole weekend for performance soon.
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« Reply #20 on: 16:31:52, 10-04-2007 »
As far as I know, Roland Barthes had little to say on the subject of Irish composers. I think this would be more use to you:

http://www.cmc.ie/composers/index.cfm
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« Reply #21 on: 16:39:27, 10-04-2007 »
Ah now (he says, mustering his best Irish accent - which is not a very good one, I might add), but what did the Irish composers have to say about Roland Barthes, now?

Quote from: richard barrett on 16:31:52, 10-04-2007
I think this would be more use to you:
... except that I can't see Maconchy there either. Roll Eyes

But you're right, she doesn't put in an appearance in S/Z. Though its subject matter does overlap somewhat with that great Irish opera The Intelligence Park.
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« Reply #22 on: 17:16:35, 10-04-2007 »
Quote from: richard barrett on 16:31:52, 10-04-2007
As far as I know, Roland Barthes had little to say on the subject of Irish composers. I think this would be more use to you:

http://www.cmc.ie/composers/index.cfm

There is however, I believe, an essay by Barthes on Bussotti's music, only in French. Never seen it though, must look it up sometime.

Incidentally, a friend tells me that Mythologies is now often required reading for advertising executives Sad
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« Reply #23 on: 18:29:52, 10-04-2007 »
Quote from: Ian Pace on 17:16:35, 10-04-2007

There is however, I believe, an essay by Barthes on Bussotti's music, only in French. Never seen it though, must look it up sometime.


Seriously?? Do let me know if you track it down - en français or otherwise.
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« Reply #24 on: 16:39:19, 18-05-2008 »
*hopes desperately for any Maconchy piano solo output?*
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« Reply #25 on: 20:41:21, 18-05-2008 »
I'm afraid the only solo keyboard work is a "Notebook" for harpsichord...

with orchestra we find:

Concertino for piano and small orchestra (1929)
Dialogue for piano and orchestra (1940)
Concertino for piano and string orchestra (1949)
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