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I was doing the thrift-shop rounds with a friend, and was really quite bored of it all. And in the background, I heard an odd/charming little ave maria; until the vocals started I thought it might have been something by Respighi possibly; I asked the guy at the counter whose ave maria it was, and he said 'Oh, that's not an ave maria. Oh wait, it is. It's the peace requiem by Karl Jenkins". And I was, like 'hmm, that name rings a bell'. And then I was, like 'oh wait, I remember where I heard that name before'.
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« Reply #46 on: 22:17:26, 26-03-2008 » |
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After that dire football game tonight I flicked on ClassicFM to catch a bit of Karl Jenkins: Stabat Mater, the recording of it's premiere in Liverpool.
I thought I was getting into it when what sounded like my Casio keyboard's rumba accompaniment began. Not impressed, and then some chanting like from Baghdad began. On this occasion I can't be bothered reading any reviews to explain the work.
A more traditional section, nice harmonies, has now begun. Hmmm.
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« Reply #47 on: 22:20:44, 26-03-2008 » |
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some chanting like from Baghdad
Sorry. Can't resist... Not having a go, honest, but the more I think about this the less confident I am about what you mean. Is it recitation of the Qur'an of which it reminds you or something like the call to prayer that the muezzin sings from the minaret of a mosque? |
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« Reply #48 on: 22:28:07, 26-03-2008 » |
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or something like the call to prayer that the muezzin sings from the minaret of a mosque?
I have to admit that I prefer my muezzins to be lovesick and of Polish origin rather than sanitized by Jenkinship... |
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« Reply #49 on: 22:32:33, 26-03-2008 » |
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or something like the call to prayer that the muezzin sings from the minaret of a mosque?
I have to admit that I prefer my muezzins to be lovesick and of Polish origin rather than sanitized by Jenkinship... AH, I like my muezzins to be Drapers mad for love cwtching up on the coal black, sloe black sea, and called Davies or Williams. |
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Reality, sa molesworth 2, is so sordid it makes me shudder
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« Reply #50 on: 22:33:36, 26-03-2008 » |
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Thanks to this thread, I listened to the last 10 minutes or so of the Stabat Mater. It sounded exactly as I expected - repetitive and banal. I do wish that I'd heard it without knowing what it was - I'd like to know what I'd have thought with no preconceptions.
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« Reply #51 on: 22:49:52, 26-03-2008 » |
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I've just googled for reviews of it. The Times and (especially) Telegraph are spectacularly rude - both use the words "mind-numbing". David Fanning in the Telegraph says that Jenkins is clearly aiming at inclusiveness, "at least, inclusiveness from the lowbrow down"  . Apparently the choir sang two Bach motets first, and the contrast in talent between the two composers was all too evident. |
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« Reply #52 on: 22:51:13, 26-03-2008 » |
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some chanting like from Baghdad
Sorry. Can't resist... Not having a go, honest, but the more I think about this the less confident I am about what you mean. Is it recitation of the Qur'an of which it reminds you or something like the call to prayer that the muezzin sings from the minaret of a mosque? hh, I think it's the Azaan as sung by the muezzin, but the vocal was female. |
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« Reply #53 on: 22:55:31, 26-03-2008 » |
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some chanting like from Baghdad
Sorry. Can't resist... Not having a go, honest, but the more I think about this the less confident I am about what you mean. Is it recitation of the Qur'an of which it reminds you or something like the call to prayer that the muezzin sings from the minaret of a mosque? hh, I think it's the Azaan as sung by the muezzin, but the vocal was female. Thanks for that John. Was there a particular reason that Baghdad came to mind? Again, not being mischievous here but I seem to have a short-circuit that runs musically straight from Baghdad to The English Patient... Just wikipedia'd the Azaan and discovered a potential goldmine of resources there. |
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« Reply #54 on: 23:04:38, 26-03-2008 » |
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hh, Baghdad only came to mind as a just east-of-the-middle-east place that that section of the Stabat Mater reminds me of. I've no idea what inspired Jenkins in his Stabat Mater, as I said above I have not read reviews or background, and I have no intention. It may not be anything like the Azaan, but enjoy your researches  |
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