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Author Topic: Bach's Brandenburg 3 - the Mystery of the Adagio  (Read 942 times)
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« Reply #30 on: 12:01:48, 23-12-2007 »

The only mention I can find of it online is here, where a copy seems to be for sale:

http://www.omifacsimiles.com/cats/bach.html
[Brandenburg Concerti, BWV 1046-1051]  Brandenburgische Konzerte. Faksimile des Autographen. Faksimileausgabe nach dem Autograph Staatsbibliothek zu Berlin – Preußische Kulturbesitz, Musikabteilung, Am.B.78.
Leipzig, 4/ 1996. Oblong, 33 x 26 cm, 170 pp. Reprint of one of the earlier (undisclosed) facsimiles of Edition Peters. Clothbound. $270 [item no.7619]

It's not very clear who the publisher is: can't find it on the Edition Peters website, nor at Bärenreiter (the only other likely candidate). But I'm pretty sure I saw a copy a couple of years ago on the shelf at Doblingers in Vienna, and it was a more recent printing than the one I have [Peters, ?1947].

Sorry can't be more helpful!  Sad

Might post some thoughts on the chords later, when I'm a little more settled, but the discussion here is very interesting.  Smiley
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« Reply #31 on: 12:05:38, 23-12-2007 »

messing about

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1_DTjEMEoM

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« Reply #32 on: 12:25:31, 23-12-2007 »


You are evidently very cheeky Mr PD - but perhaps we should take it as part of the festivity almost upon us?

Baz  Grin Grin Grin Grin
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« Reply #33 on: 13:16:58, 23-12-2007 »

Ah, if only that clip had begun slightly earlier, Pim - we would have the answer to our mystery  Wink

Meanwhile, forthcoming Christmas books on the topic include:

Dan Brown: "The Figured-Bass Code" - numeration found below the bass-lines of Bach's Brandenburg Concertos, previously thought to be a shorthand version of the harpsichord part, is in fact an encoded cipher of the GPS location of the Holy Grail.

David Icke: "JS Bach, the Reptilian Shape-Shifter" - how Bach was forced to hide the slow movement of his Brandenburg Concerto No 3 because it revealed his membership of the Illuminati, The Freemasons, The Order of The Cross Of Malta, the St Johns Ambulance Brigade, etc.  Including pictures of Bach at Bohemian Grove with Froberger and Muffat, and why the Slow Movement is kept from the public to this day by other reptilian shape-shifters including Radio Three, and (cont p94).

Alex Jones: "The Truth About 6/3" - the companion volume to "The Truth About 9/11"

Paul McKenna: "I Can Make You Improvise The Slow Movement Of Brandenburg 3" - suitable for all instruments (a separate edition for saxophones, trumpets, euphoniums and other instruments in Bb is available).  Incudes a cd of both chords played by the world-famous Vladivostok Philharmonic Baroque Symphony Orchestra Ensemble in sonorous mono.

Norman Lebrecht: "Why Bach Is Rubbish" - Bach was such a rubbish composer that he couldn't think of anything for the Slow Movement.  Britain's leading musicoffeetablogist examines the elaborate hoax that suggested Bach was a great composer, along with suggesting that all music written after 1883 was also rubbish, that classical music is dead, etc.  $10 from every copy sold goes to the Fighting Fund against the Naxos judgement. Now available from £1 shops and remaindered-booksellers all over Acton.
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« Reply #34 on: 14:45:27, 23-12-2007 »

Paul McKenna: "I Can Make You Improvise The Slow Movement Of Brandenburg 3" - suitable for all instruments (a separate edition for saxophones, trumpets, euphoniums and other instruments in Bb is available).  Incudes a cd of both chords played by the world-famous Vladivostok Philharmonic Baroque Symphony Orchestra Ensemble in sonorous mono.

Sounds almost like Percy Grainger - just need to throw in some "tuneful percussion" and as many pianos as available.

I've played Brandenburg 3 in the brass Tentet arrangement (done by Chris Mowat I think for the PJBE).  If memory serves me right, there were two written out cadenzas based on material from the outer movements.  It didn't affect my tuba part though.  "Derrrr (Bb) Derrrr (A)"  Marvellous.

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« Reply #35 on: 14:51:00, 23-12-2007 »


What was Mr Grew posting once upon a time concerning Bouncing Flemings?  Cheesy
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« Reply #36 on: 05:09:03, 15-02-2008 »

I'm wondering if what's lurking behind this , as well ,as cd says, as  the modal invocation,is a diversity of attitudes to improvisation over those two chords-which could include Ollie's preference not to play over them (Miles Davis approach as it were).
The 2 chords seem to be`an object lesson in creating musical space and breaking up the two allegros-a sort of laying down the gauntlet?
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