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« Reply #4170 on: 13:16:16, 16-11-2008 » |
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What I meant of course, Ted, is that that clever boy hh has studied his Stockhausen so well and so carefully that unlike lesser mortals he may find himself able to absorb the relevant aspects of Stockhausen's late Tirekreis orchestrations without necessarily needing to deflect his entire attention from no-doubt-pressing matters such as preparing his luncheon boxes for the week ahead.  The round table podcast hosted by Guru Worby is hilariously unedited is not it? ('Have we got time for one more question Philip?' 'Scrap that, I'll have another go at that one ...') |
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« Reply #4171 on: 14:50:17, 16-11-2008 » |
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Ah, thanks now I understand Tinners. I do apologize to the erudite hh. (No Marmite for me, thanks.) I must admit that much of the wisdom of the Guru would be wasted on me even if Mr Worby and friends spoke concise and fluent English. I do feel that many of H&N's commentators are a hindrance rather than a help in the appreciation of the music and too many of them have either poor or very heavily accented English. (I do not, of course, refer to the succinct, literate, very informative and amusing contributions made by members of this board!) It would be much better to have more music together with well-thought-out notes made available on the Radio 3 web-site, I recall the BBC use to publish opera libretti to accompany broadcasts. |
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« Reply #4172 on: 15:29:29, 16-11-2008 » |
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Gordon Bennett, I am so unworthy of this MB at times. NS, Lou Reed.
Sad innit?
I feel I should be more aesthetic and poetic, but it is Sunday afternoon after all.
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Reality, sa molesworth 2, is so sordid it makes me shudder
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« Reply #4173 on: 15:30:57, 16-11-2008 » |
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Gordon Bennett, I am so unworthy of this MB at times. NS, Lou Reed.
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I feel I should be more aesthetic and poetic, but it is Sunday afternoon after all.
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« Reply #4174 on: 15:45:33, 16-11-2008 » |
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Gordon Bennett, I am so unworthy of this MB at times. NS, Lou Reed.
Sad innit?
I feel I should be more aesthetic and poetic, but it is Sunday afternoon after all.
Metal machine music, is it Anty? autoharp, Berlin it is I confess. Next on (Oh My Lord, Father Bernadette would have a veritable fit of the vapours,) Pet Shop Boys, Fundamental and possibly Malcolm Mclaren Fans. Sometimes cheap music is so potent!! And exhilarating. Just on now, switched discs, Welcome to the Sodom and Gommorah Show!! PSB |
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« Reply #4175 on: 20:44:38, 16-11-2008 » |
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that clever boy hh has studied his Stockhausen so well and so carefully that unlike lesser mortals he may find himself able to absorb the relevant aspects of Stockhausen's late Tirekreis orchestrations without necessarily needing to deflect his entire attention from no-doubt-pressing matters such as preparing his luncheon boxes for the week ahead.
Hello, what now? Um. Still haven't listened yet. I want to do that when I'm a little less stressed with this whole assignment business. I may have to record it and listen at a later date.  Gordon Bennett, I am so unworthy of this MB at times. NS, Lou Reed.
Sad innit?
I feel I should be more aesthetic and poetic, but it is Sunday afternoon after all.
We are unworthy of you Mistress Antheil. That is beyond dispute. Sunday afternoons call for a little pick-me-up. My Sunday afternoon listening has been two of Tippett's symphonies: nos 3 and 4. I haven't listened to no 3 for a while but I was blown away this afternoon. I remember hearing it for the first time in the Barbican (I think) in 1995 to celebrate his 90th birthday. I didn't know what to make of it then, but I loved the slow movement and my Dad found the Beethoven funny. I've always liked no 4 since first hearing it on CD as a 1st yr at Durham. I've never heard it live. I'm not going to listen to any more Tippett tonight though. Too much for a Sunday evening! |
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« Reply #4176 on: 23:44:52, 16-11-2008 » |
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 With the recent stuff about fortepianos and about Hummel, it seemed appropriate to spin this fine disc which was made using an 1824 Conrad Graf which is on permanent loan to the Beethoven-Haus, Bonn, from the Hummel family. By the way, if it looks interesting to you, beware. There is no sign of it on either Amazon,uk or de. However, there is one, on Amazon.fr, and at a very reasonable price. |
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« Reply #4177 on: 00:57:21, 17-11-2008 » |
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« Reply #4178 on: 03:40:27, 17-11-2008 » |
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NS:
First, I had C.P.E. Bach's complete Fantasien executed on a very delicate fortepiano by one E. Garvey. A very early CD, where they were still putting the program notes in LP format and then just folding them lengthwise as well as crosswise. Anyway, a good spin. Hadn't heard some of these pieces before.
Following that, a bl**dy fantastic disc of Bernardo Storace's Selva di varie Compositioni d'intavolatura per cembalo ed organo. The composer is biographically completely buried, yet apparently forms an essential musical link btw our friend Frescobaldi and our later friend Bernardo Pasquini. Except this is as bright and inventive as Pasquini can be dreadful and long-winded.
Then, Hanns Eisler interviews and songs, with the composer at the larynx. Great stuff, especially his remarks on Brecht.
Now, Mozart's later-middle symphonies, i.e., K.199 - K.201, with Sir Neville Marriner and the Academy of St. Martin-in-the-Fields. Looking for something to confound my students with. Failing to find same. May need to go back to the 'Prague' or thereabouts. Or a String Quartet or two. Or the String Trio! Hm.
In other words, a fantastic day of spinning. The whole Brecht/Eisler thing in particular has given me a real charge for working late tonight!
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« Reply #4179 on: 07:31:12, 17-11-2008 » |
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Someone bought me Uchida's recordng of the Hammerklavier as a get well/lose the will to live present Spun it on headphones in the wee small hours. Not sure - she's a bit finnicky in the scherzo, oddly undoing its momentum. But the Adagio sostenuto is magical, lost in a world of its own. |
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« Reply #4180 on: 08:15:51, 17-11-2008 » |
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With the recent stuff about fortepianos and about Hummel, it seemed appropriate to spin this fine disc which was made using an 1824 Conrad Graf which is on permanent loan to the Beethoven-Haus, Bonn, from the Hummel family. By the way, if it looks interesting to you, beware. There is no sign of it on either Amazon,uk or de. However, there is one, on Amazon.fr, and at a very reasonable price. You can also get it direct from the source although what with the pound being in the Eimer this might not count as a reasonable price for some: http://www.beethoven-haus-bonn.de/sixcms/detail.php?id=5627&template=ware_detail_shop_en&_mid=3582 |
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« Reply #4181 on: 09:11:27, 17-11-2008 » |
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Well, back to normal listening for me, having had the busy weekend recording with the band for our cd. I might have some quietish music on or something similar. I hope that some of you people out there be taking orders!!  |
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« Reply #4182 on: 10:26:28, 18-11-2008 » |
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I seem to be the only one to find the Reinhard Goebel performances entirely reasonable and not (well hardly) at all bonkers, then? To me they're not only the ones to have best stood up over time, but seem to me to be for the most part perfectly sensible!
I think they make total sense (except for the wild finale to the third, which is perhaps just a tad much? - but in a good way). The MAK set is the first set I've come across that I've actually wanted to listen to again. No other recording I have (admittedly only a few, and mostly rather old) seems to do anything remotely similar to what goes on in my head when I look at the scores. I have no recording of the Brandenburg Concertos and think maybe these MusAntKöl recordings are a desirable thing. I would heartily endorse such a course of action as acquiring same post haste. Well, I do have a few recordings of the Brandenburgs, including the W. Carlos set , but seeing the enthusiastic support for the MAK box, I ordered it (the 8 disc one). The Brandenburgs are in deed well worth getting, but it was quite a surprise to see BWV 1070 included as one of the suites/overtures. Only when you get into RG's notes on the orchestral suites do you discover that authorship of WFB is acknowledged. The front page of the listings only mentions JSB, and the track listing does nothing to suggest that the so-called fifth of the four suites is by anyone other than JSB. That said, I welcome its inclusion, since I have previously only ever heard of it, not actually heard it. |
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