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Author Topic: The Joyce Hatto hoax  (Read 3674 times)
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« Reply #60 on: 17:26:36, 18-03-2007 »

I think it is not her (Rachmaninov prelude). It is too good to be played by Hatto. I think I heard this performance by somebody else. I am not 100% sure, though. Quality of tape is not good.
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« Reply #61 on: 17:43:30, 18-03-2007 »

There's some stuff about Joyce Hatto in the latest Private Eye:

'The man behind this creative enterprise, Hatto's 76-year old husband Mr W. Barrington-Coupe, has form. In the 1960s his Delta label regularly issued strange recordings composed of radio broadcasts or discs he had copied behind the iron curtain and interwoven to disguise the players. On a notable record of Tchaikovsky's 4th Symphony, he cocked it up by sticking in a dozen bars or so backwards. [Would love to hear that!] The "Danzig Philharmonic" recording was in stereo, when everyone knew that Danzig eased to exist a decade or more before stereo became commonplace. He also made up the artists' names: the conductor was identified as one Wilhelm Havagess.

Towards the end of the 1960s, Barrington-Couple tried to record the Messiah on the cheap at a church in Kilburn. Halfway through the process someone lifted an iron plate in the churchyard and dumped two tons of coal on the recording crew in the crypt. He eventually got his comeuppance when he took over a pressing plant in Manchester for a week to produce thousands of discs, forgetting to pay purchase tax. He went to prison, his label Saga went bust and the Official Receiver declared that Barrington-Couple was chiefly responsible for the company's demise.'
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« Reply #62 on: 20:35:09, 18-03-2007 »

Ian, you can hear those bars of yksvokiahct - go to

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/factual/pip/mxa90/

and listen again! programme broadcast on Thursday morning...
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« Reply #63 on: 21:48:08, 18-03-2007 »

Forgot to add that the sleeve notes say nothing about Hatto, the writer just discusses the concerto.

The front cover features the opening bars of the opening Moderato, red on black, with a very dark almost silhouette photo of Hatto at the keyboard, superimposed.


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« Reply #64 on: 13:31:26, 19-03-2007 »

...his label Saga went bust and the Official Receiver declared that Barrington-Couple was chiefly responsible for the company's demise.'
And yet Saga issued some very fine recordings: the Aeolian version of the Schubert string quintet, and John Shirley-Quirk's recital of English song including Butterworth's Shropshire Lad cycle, are both treasures.
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« Reply #65 on: 13:34:56, 19-03-2007 »

Ian, you can hear those bars of yksvokiahct - go to

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/factual/pip/mxa90/

and listen again! programme broadcast on Thursday morning...


Well worth a listen; it's about 25 minutes in to hear the Tchaik clip, though.
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« Reply #66 on: 14:00:51, 19-03-2007 »

And yet Saga issued some very fine recordings: the Aeolian version of the Schubert string quintet, and John Shirley-Quirk's recital of English song including Butterworth's Shropshire Lad cycle, are both treasures.

Indeed, and I have several very fine LP's from Saga from around 1961-67. Early Livia Rev (piano) of Chopin. Weber's Abu Hassan with Schwarzkopf, triple LP of Bartok's String Quartets (Fine Arts Quartet), an album of Janet Baker singing RVW, Warlock, Finzi, Dunhill etc.


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« Reply #67 on: 14:21:59, 19-03-2007 »

...an album of Janet Baker singing RVW, Warlock, Finzi, Dunhill etc.

Now available on a Regis CD which I must remember to buy soon...

The Shirley-Quirk Butterworth features some clumping around in the background during the (exquisitely sung) opening lines of "Loveliest of Trees" - Mr Barrington-Coupe moving the furniture, perhaps?
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« Reply #68 on: 15:07:46, 19-03-2007 »

Livia Rev's Debussy on Saga is also marvellous. Although in the CD incarnation the second book of Preludes has turntable rumble. And the first two notes of Et la lune descend... are missing.
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« Reply #69 on: 21:45:04, 19-03-2007 »

Ian, you can hear those bars of yksvokiahct - go to

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/factual/pip/mxa90/

and listen again! programme broadcast on Thursday morning...


Well worth a listen; it's about 25 minutes in to hear the Tchaik clip, though.

Thanks Martin.  Actually, that Tchaik 4 seemed very good except for the abhorent 4 bars!

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« Reply #70 on: 15:03:22, 23-03-2007 »

And yet Saga issued some very fine recordings: the Aeolian version of the Schubert string quintet .....
Agreed - I heard the excellent Aeolian Quartet many times in the 1960s when Sydney Humphreys was leader, and have that Schubert String Quintet LP. I see that Regis are re-issuing it on CD in April. I would also like to have Janos Starker's [Saga] unaccompanied Bach 3 & 6 on CD.
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« Reply #71 on: 19:59:43, 01-05-2007 »

as i'm sure many of you realise Naxos have recently released a 4 disc set:A-Z great pianists including Busoni,Saint-Saens,Edwin Fischer...it's fantastic value.
the accompanying booklet is over 800 pages long and is mostly a good read.Alas,it must've been written before the hoax hit the headlines and there's a substantial entry on the discredited pianist while nothing for the great Ronald Smith or Peter Katin.Otherwise,pretty inclusive.
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« Reply #72 on: 10:07:10, 05-07-2007 »

Curiouser and curiouser.... Is this for real?

http://www.classicstoday.com/review.asp?ReviewNum=10828
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« Reply #73 on: 10:11:27, 05-07-2007 »

Well if it wasn't originally posted on April 1 I'll be surprised indeed.

http://serverweb2.analyzer.cz/www/lang/cs/str/cd/cd/214/id_nav/246/id_str/252/index.html

http://www.medieval.org/emfaq/cds/lol10107.htm

Otherwise nothin' doin' under that catalogue number. Not that that check was completely necessary... Wink
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« Reply #74 on: 11:15:32, 05-07-2007 »

It gets stranger and stranger out there. Who is playing on the labels? Who can we believe to?
Tell me this is not real, please.
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