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Author Topic: Christmas - love it or hate it?  (Read 2629 times)
Lord Byron
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« Reply #15 on: 23:24:46, 15-11-2007 »

Well of course I do, being a poetl but why do you?

Because I want to enjoy life instead of 'growing up' and doing a job that demands too much of my time and soul, oddly enough, a friend once said i had the 'soul of a poet' which may or may not be true but I like the way she said it Smiley

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« Reply #16 on: 23:28:44, 15-11-2007 »

I'm with the Bah Humbug tendency

I have a little sweet jar with:

                                              Bah! Humbug!
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on the label (I bought it half-price from the RFH gift shop in Jan 2001, natch).  I've filled it up and offered visitors humbugs every Xmas since then. 
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« Reply #17 on: 23:46:27, 15-11-2007 »

My niece gave me this Christmas card a few years ago - can't think why! Cheesy

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« Reply #18 on: 02:20:23, 16-11-2007 »

This is where I used to celebrate Christmas

It's usually not snowy at Christmas, but one year, I dragged myself out there before sunrise and got an amazing pic (now lost in the junkpile somewhere) with purple snow and orange clouds.
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« Reply #19 on: 08:54:00, 16-11-2007 »

This is where I used to celebrate Christmas

It's usually not snowy at Christmas, but one year, I dragged myself out there before sunrise and got an amazing pic (now lost in the junkpile somewhere) with purple snow and orange clouds.

Wow, kitty, a Suffolk round tower church. Lovely. The Aldeburgh Festival used to organise Church Crawls! Such unbelievabe riches of old churches in East Anglia.

In my son's Norfolk village, even if we miss the Christmas Eve carols, which are only once every three years because the villages are so small the churches take turns, we can go down the garden and look between the trees, and the lit church is visible across the dark fields -  the singing is audible. Absolute magic. This is the church:




Apart from such things, I don't like Christmas nearly as much as I used to - lack of children, worry about presents, too much fuss. Not as bad as New Year, though, which like Morticia I absolutely refuse to celebrate. It's all so phoney.
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« Reply #20 on: 11:27:45, 16-11-2007 »

The Christmas loathers amongst you may wish to repair to the Outer Hebrides, where the Presbyterians largely shun Christmas. You could quite happily avoid it altogether up there especially if you pick the right spot. Oh, and contrary to some beliefs, it's quite mild there in December, the benefits of the Gulf Stream keeping it largely frost-free. (Windy and damp, perhaps, but not much chance of snow.)
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« Reply #21 on: 15:35:52, 16-11-2007 »


Wow, kitty, a Suffolk round tower church. Lovely. The Aldeburgh Festival used to organise Church Crawls! Such unbelievabe riches of old churches in East Anglia.

In my son's Norfolk village, even if we miss the Christmas Eve carols, which are only once every three years because the villages are so small the churches take turns, we can go down the garden and look between the trees, and the lit church is visible across the dark fields -  the singing is audible. Absolute magic.

I have to agree with you about the children, Mary. Even though my two (accessible) grandchildren can exhaust me after just two hours. Somehow, Christmas with children, and maybe a local carol service, embodies a sense of hope that I haven't found anywhere else. A feeling that however messed-up the world might be, it can be made better.
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« Reply #22 on: 18:02:41, 16-11-2007 »

I do like doing Christmas activities with the children, and although my own are growing up now (the youngest is 11), as a primary school teacher, each year I have a class of enthusiastic 5-7 or 6-8 year olds and their delight at making Christmas ornaments, cards etc does make me happy. No doubt they'll be begging me to bring in that singing, dancing Christmas tree again...(this is my 3rd year with some of them) - for them, the naffer the better! We've started to learn the musical Nativity show but I'm hoping to save the rest of the Christmassy things till the beginning of December at least.
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« Reply #23 on: 18:13:41, 16-11-2007 »

In the last three years, I came to love Christmas but that was largely due to my girlfriend. I'm sort of dreading it this year (hadn't really realised that until I read this thread) because I'm looking forward to it now, but I have a feeling that without her it's going to be awful. Sorry. Been a day with too many thoughts.
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« Reply #24 on: 18:28:09, 16-11-2007 »

Perhaps Hate is too strong a word regarding Christmas.  What happened to me is that a relationship finally ended on December 5th.  In fact it had been in its death throes for a very long time, but the December date was when he finally moved out.

As you can imagine I was in no mood to 'do' Christmas and, because I set myself apart from it, I saw the greed, the conspiuous comsumption, the couples arguing in supermarkets as to whether they had enough cashews or carrots.  A nephew of someone I worked for was employed at a local supermarket.  One woman spent £1500 in one transaction on food and my first thought was "That's obscene"  And, coming out of that supermarket, trolleys laden, people were just not stopping to put any money in the Sally Army boxes, and bless them, they were playing their hearts out.

However, there have always been mid-Winter festivals and our Christmas is an amalgam of Saturnalia and Pagan Festivals so perhaps we need it to boost our spirits and to hope that Spring will come again.

As for New Year, I am with Mort and Mary on this.  In fact, on New Years Eve, if I'm not in bed by 10.30pm then I come home  Cheesy
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« Reply #25 on: 18:36:06, 16-11-2007 »

We've started to learn the musical Nativity show but I'm hoping to save the rest of the Christmassy things till the beginning of December at least.

Yes, we've also launched into learning the songs for our KS2 production - the star roles are for a cow, a sheep and a chicken! (Stable Manners - you may know it - which is very jolly). The KS1 and KS2 Christmas productions, the making of the Advent wreath (always a job for my class) and singing carols in the church service are quite often the highlights of my Christmas. I saw them building the ice rink in the Cathedral Close earlier this afternoon and that was rather charming to see last year. I hate the commercial side of it all and the fact that the decorations went up in the supermarket as soon as 5th November was done and dusted and the ridiculous buying/ hoarding of food as if the shops will be closed for a fortnight. As for New Year's Eve - can't stand it at all!

After my mother suddenly passed away in the summer, I must admit that I'm not hugely looking forward to the festive season this year. I shall enjoy the school-based bustle, but the holidays themselves will, I think, be a chance to catch up on some reading/ listening/ viewing instead.
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« Reply #26 on: 18:58:11, 16-11-2007 »


However, there have always been mid-Winter festivals and our Christmas is an amalgam of Saturnalia and Pagan Festivals so perhaps we need it to boost our spirits and to hope that Spring will come again.


For me, as someone who loathes the commercialism and frenzy, and who has no religious belief, this is the one aspect of Christmas that really moves me; the ancient Pagan idea of the earth at its quietest, the day at its shortest, and the turning point between the dying year and the new one.  Of course the irony is that it is so much the opposite of the mainstream Christmas.

And of course there is the time with the family, and the good food.  Our Christmas begins next weekend - I suppose we're one of the few households left that still observes Stir-up Sunday and we'll be making the cake and the pudding.

I do like doing Christmas activities with the children, and although my own are growing up now (the youngest is 11), as a primary school teacher, each year I have a class of enthusiastic 5-7 or 6-8 year olds and their delight at making Christmas ornaments, cards etc does make me happy.

No doubt you will avoid the problem a primary teacher friend of mine had a year or two ago when owing to inexperience, communication failures and a run-in with a couple of pushy parents, she ended up with five Wise Men .....
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« Reply #27 on: 19:04:58, 16-11-2007 »

I'm with the New Year's Eve haters, especially after finishing one almost thirty years ago careering down a country lane in Somerset in an upside down Volkswagon Beetle thinking "those sparks coming up from the road look interesting". I wasn't driving but like the "driver" I was very, very drunk. But ending up wedged sideways in both embankments of the lane in the middle of nowhere tended to sober us up pretty quickly.

My father died on a Christmas Day but I can still be in good cheer in the run up to Christmas as long as I don't hear Noddy Holder ( or Roy Wood, or Paul McCartney, or John and Yoko or Cliff bleedin' Richard )
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« Reply #28 on: 19:12:15, 16-11-2007 »

I dislike Christmas because my family make such a bloody fuss.
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« Reply #29 on: 19:15:36, 16-11-2007 »

My nephews celebrated in new zealand last year, so will be nice to see them for christmas this year, and nice to see family, old friends etc.  Due to not being able to carry much on a train, presents are a hassle.  Christmas is fine for me, really.  

New years is just like any other busy night out really, i think, you know, just with extra hassle to get home etc. so I avoid it.

Being a bachelor boy i kind of enjoy having a bit of 'family' life at christmas and then buggering off, am even friends with a few yummy mummies so can have the odd 'family day out' type thing, i am just trying to make the best of things, being a mad poetic type an all.

My friend alan and i have a christmas tradition of giving to the poor at christmas, well, actually, to the lapdance club girls in huddersfield teee heee

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