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« Reply #435 on: 09:10:44, 09-02-2008 »

I find it funny the way singers prononce some words.

I find it funny too, t-p.

I have a disc of the Netherlands Chamber Choir with choral works by Janacek. I don't know the Czech language, but I can hear clearly that the members of the Choir are singing with a Dutch accent on that disc. Cheesy
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« Reply #436 on: 09:44:01, 09-02-2008 »

I'm not quite sure how my comment on the Live Concert thread got here, but never mind....

I've sung in lots of languages. My German and French are all right, Italian not very good, and I cringe now to think how bad my Russian pronunciation probably was, not to mention Czech!. I've never sung in Dutch, though I did try to learn it once.

It's really the singers' distortions of their own language that are funny, though I've been guilty of it myself a bit, simply to make the vowels/diphthongs easier to sing. I've heard lots of examples, t-p, but the one I quoted was the most memorable. That was an English choir singing in Engliah.
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« Reply #437 on: 10:19:54, 09-02-2008 »

Régine Crespin's pronunciation of German and English was very good.

One of the worst examples of bad pronunciation is Jard van Nes's recording of Frank Martin's Cornet (on a text by Rilke).
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« Reply #438 on: 12:01:36, 09-02-2008 »

I hope you did not mind too much Mary that I put a quate from your post. I find it funny the way singers say some words. They do it in Russian language too. I don't mind the accent, it is native speakers that do funny things with their language.
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« Reply #439 on: 12:11:37, 09-02-2008 »

I don't mind at all, t-p!
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« Reply #440 on: 12:23:57, 09-02-2008 »

We know it though as the Erl-King; in the original it is entitled Le Roi des Aulnes and we wonder whether the Member has read it?

I read that Michel Tournier, who's a member of the Prix Goncourt Jury, is often not attending the meetings of the Jury because he's suffering from bad health. We wish him all the best in these difficult times.

Age has become a hot topic for the Prix Goncourt Jury:

http://cultureetloisirs.france2.fr/livres/actu/39355985-fr.php

And also for the Académie Francaise:

http://www.lemonde.fr/livres/article/2008/02/06/academie-francaise-cherche-candidats-jeunes_1008049_3260.html#ens_id=1008156

Oh, dear: Claude-Lévi Strauss will turn hundred in November. Time flies!
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« Reply #441 on: 14:08:37, 09-02-2008 »

the Tate Bricks aren't scupture

scupture n - an artistic installation featuring a cup
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« Reply #442 on: 14:10:58, 09-02-2008 »

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The plant manager is helping police with their enquiries (c.f. euphemisms thread)
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« Reply #443 on: 15:23:22, 10-02-2008 »

Euphonianism - Instrument that sounds like something else
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« Reply #444 on: 16:23:21, 10-02-2008 »

I hope you did not mind too much Mary that I put a quate from your post. I find it funny the way singers say some words. They do it in Russian language too. I don't mind the accent, it is native speakers that do funny things with their language.

Just about on topic t-p, I put on a performance of Britten's 'Let's Make an opera and Little Sweep' quite a few years ago now and at one point there is the line 'Rub her hands, rub her hands' which came out from my lovely sixth form girl as 'Rubber 'ands, rubber 'ands' however hard she tried to sing it accurately!!

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« Reply #445 on: 16:41:59, 10-02-2008 »

 Cheesy
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« Reply #446 on: 12:59:23, 11-02-2008 »

. . . some kind of musical groundhog day, condemned to go around in circles . . .

Of late we have been seeing this expression more and more frequently but have come no closer to an understanding of its signification. According to the great Oxford English Dictionary it signifies in northern America what we call the feast of the purification of the Virgin Mary, or Candlemas, held as Members will be aware on the second of February, and one of the quarter-days in Scotland.

The ground-hog itself we gather is a northern American marmot, and it is wont to emerge from hibernation on that same day (although we very much doubt that it can be exactly on the second of February every year).

Thus far we think we comprehend, although we see no necessity for the use of the expression in educated European discourse. However we have seen it used in all kinds of contexts wherein - as in the one quoted above - it conveys to us no meaning of any kind. Is there perhaps a Member able to enlighten us as to its true signification? Not that we intend ever to use it of course, but we do like to understand the varieties of English spoken by common people in the different parts of the world.

Here is another example - quite different from the first!

I have whole days when I scan the threads there in something akin to sorrow. It's a very strange environment now: abject serial spamming is ignored by the mods, and even without that much of it seems like Groundhog Day: not nice at all.

So it is something futile (those circles) and something unpleasant. We already have an ample sufficiency of words in English to convey each of those qualities. And Mr. Martle has HERE been kind enough to provide an illustration of the beast, which looks much as we had imagined it, but we remain unenlightened. We hope it is nothing cruel.
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« Reply #447 on: 13:15:33, 11-02-2008 »

. . . some kind of musical groundhog day, condemned to go around in circles . . .

Of late we have been seeing this expression more and more frequently but have come no closer to an understanding of its signification.

The reference is to a popular film called "Groundhog Day".  BACKGROUND: In America there is a superstition that a groundhog named "Punxsutawney Phil" can predict the duration of the current winter, on Candlemas Day (Feb 2nd).  If he sees his own shadow when he comes out of his burrow on that day, it means there will be six more weeks of winter.  THE FILM: Bill Murray plays an obstinate and narcissistic "TV Weather-Man", compelled by his network to report on Punxsutawney Phil's "prediction" once a year, in defiance of all the scientific data from which his forecasts are compiled on the other 364 days in the year.  As a divine punishment for his appallingly rude behaviour to all around him,  the weather-forecaster is condemned to live-out every day of his life as the worst day of his year - Groundhog Day.  It is, in fact, a modern retelling of an ancient fable, and the Member can doubtless tell us which Smiley
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« Reply #448 on: 14:07:16, 11-02-2008 »

"Punxsutawney Phil"

Thanks for that Reiner. Groundhog Day was the theme in a recent Guardian prize crossword and 10 down is obviously "Punxsutawney" - it was an anagram but as I was doing the puzzle away from my PC I couldn't google it. No need now! I've seen the film but I couldn't remember what the groundhog was called.

Does anyone else remember the Dunlop Groundhog?



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« Reply #449 on: 15:46:18, 11-02-2008 »

It was a pretty good film, as I remember. 'Not just funny but thought-provoking' - sort of good, I mean.
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