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« Reply #105 on: 23:13:15, 20-03-2008 » |
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It says 'local time' quite clearly in the text, folks: sixth paragraph.
Yes but UK/Europe is hardly gonna do this before Atlanta. Anyway, at 8-9pm it'll still be daylight in Australia, South Africa, Namibia, Argentina, Chile...  and most offices I ever visit at 2.00pm have their lights on so yeah, on Monday a good time |
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« Reply #106 on: 23:16:57, 20-03-2008 » |
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Anyway, at 8-9pm it'll still be daylight in Australia, South Africa, Namibia, Argentina, Chile... No, John. The idea seems to be that each country turns their lights off between 8 and 9pm their time - so it won't be people around the globe all switching their lights off at once, but a staggered effect... I rather like the idea and would suggest people switch off their televisions and computers as well. |
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Our chief weapon is surprise...surprise and fear...fear and surprise.... Our two weapons are fear and surprise...and ruthless efficiency
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« Reply #107 on: 23:20:38, 20-03-2008 » |
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No, IGI,
In March at 8pm it IS still daylight in Australia, ask Grew
and in South Africa, Mozambique, Madagascar, Namibia, Falkland Islands, Argentina, Chile, Fiji Islands.....
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« Reply #109 on: 23:31:46, 20-03-2008 » |
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its ****ing pissing down here
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« Reply #110 on: 23:38:07, 20-03-2008 » |
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So it is daylight some places. I think the UK have got it right. Bank holiday weekend, close the main rail line then everyone will think the roads will be gridlocked and not drive  |
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« Reply #111 on: 23:38:50, 20-03-2008 » |
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No, IGI,
In March at 8pm it IS still daylight in Australia, ask Grew
and in South Africa, Mozambique, Madagascar, Namibia, Falkland Islands, Argentina, Chile, Fiji Islands.....
Well in that case, if they don't have their lights on, then they won't have to switch them off. If people in these countries wish to participate then, as IGI suggested, they could always switch off their computers, televisions or appliances on stand-by. about. People either will or won't participate. |
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« Reply #112 on: 23:46:06, 20-03-2008 » |
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Yeah Morticia, but in the end the Atlantans will just sit there feeling smug at their reserved candlelit dining tables, eating lobster, shark, venison, veal, whatever.
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« Reply #113 on: 23:51:05, 20-03-2008 » |
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I fear this protest is just a drop in the ocean - many more drops in the ocean are being provided by the glaciers which are melting at an alarming rate  http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/7299561.stm |
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« Reply #114 on: 23:54:15, 20-03-2008 » |
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I fear this protest is just a drop in the ocean - many more drops in the ocean are being provided by the glaciers which are melting at an alarming rate Maybe that's because we're at the end of a natural ice-age. Over the last 5 billion years it's been very rare to have ice-caps. |
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« Reply #115 on: 00:01:04, 21-03-2008 » |
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Yeah Morticia, but in the end the Atlantans will just sit there feeling smug at their reserved candlelit dining tables, eating lobster, shark, venison, veal, whatever.
Not if the electric ovens have been switched off!  |
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« Reply #116 on: 00:03:46, 21-03-2008 » |
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I fear this protest is just a drop in the ocean - many more drops in the ocean are being provided by the glaciers which are melting at an alarming rate Maybe that's because we're at the end of a natural ice-age. Over the last 5 billion years it's been very rare to have ice-caps. Mmm, but there have generally been ice-caps for as long as we've been around. True - the world might be better off without humanity and it might be a useful flush mechanism (a self-correcting fault almost!) but it would be a bit of a bummer. |
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« Reply #117 on: 00:05:05, 21-03-2008 » |
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Over the last 5 billion years it's been very rare to have ice-caps.
It's been very rare to have humans as well. I'm looking forward to growing  in my garden. |
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« Reply #118 on: 00:05:40, 21-03-2008 » |
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Not if the electric ovens have been switched off! Indeed Mort, they didn't say ovens should be off 7.00-8.00pm  Or no driving 9.00-10.00pm, not even Jeep Cherokees or Porsche Cayennes Nobody has blamed mankind for the end of the First Ice Age |
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« Reply #119 on: 00:19:20, 21-03-2008 » |
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I fear this protest is just a drop in the ocean - many more drops in the ocean are being provided by the glaciers which are melting at an alarming rate Maybe that's because we're at the end of a natural ice-age. Over the last 5 billion years it's been very rare to have ice-caps. Who's this "we", who are at the end of a natural ice-age. Homo sapiens has never lived on a planet without ice-caps. Come to think of it, it is only about three decades since the fashion (for its fashon that rules in much science) was for a coming ice-age. It is worth remembering Lovelock's point re. all the kerfuffle over thinning of the ozone layer over the Arctic. It only became possible to make any meaningful measurements when he invented the electron capture detector used to make those measurements. All previous figures are estimates. It does not mean we can make no educated estimates of the previous history or the ozone layer from examining ice cores, etc, but it is salient to bear in mind that direct measurement of the ozone layer is a very new technique. Now the basic mechanism of the 'greenhouse effect' have been known since the 19th century. It is only in the past few decades, however, that serious attention has been paid to that mechanism, and the anthropogenic aspects come up for discussion. Who knows what the science fashion might be next year? I know, let's all just bury our heads in the sand and pretend we have no responsibility for our actions, eh? |
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