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Author Topic: The history of dance music ......  (Read 711 times)
John W
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« Reply #15 on: 13:20:28, 09-06-2008 »

3. That episode of Only Fools and Horses where the chandelier falls down.

Even worse is the one where he falls while leaning on the bar; I think that scene is really badly done because it would have been more realistic if he'd just glanced (as you do) to where his elbow was going, but too late to stop himself falling.

I remember there used to be a Dance Music Hall of Fame in LA, that only went as far back as the Bee Gees !

Right, Ruby and all, I must be doing something else now, days off are so precious.
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« Reply #16 on: 13:31:20, 09-06-2008 »

3. That episode of Only Fools and Horses where the chandelier falls down.

Even worse is the one where he falls while leaning on the bar; I think that scene is really badly done because it would have been more realistic if he'd just glanced (as you do) to where his elbow was going, but too late to stop himself falling.

Oh but a quality prat-fall is a quality prat-fall.  Cheesy

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« Reply #17 on: 14:18:04, 09-06-2008 »

Even worse is the one where he falls while leaning on the bar; I think that scene is really badly done because it would have been more realistic if he'd just glanced (as you do) to where his elbow was going, but too late to stop himself falling.

"BADLY DONE"!!!!! Gosh, John W. I have bitten my lip stoically (or buttoned it?) at some of your views expressed here. Broad church and all that. Each to his own. But NO SANE PERSON COULD POSSIBLY THINK THAT. It's almost up there with Keaton. Beautifully done.

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« Reply #18 on: 14:25:45, 09-06-2008 »

Ah George, have I ever actually claimed to be sane?

OK not badly done, could have been better. Of course the first time we saw it it was fab. If Keaton had done it I reckon he would have glanced at the bar, just too late  Smiley


Do you think there are quite a few bitten lips here, reading my posts? I'm getting a complex now.
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« Reply #19 on: 14:58:02, 09-06-2008 »

If Keaton had done it I reckon he would have glanced at the bar, just too late  Smiley

But we'll never know now.  Mind you, Harold Lloyd would have probably made it scarier ...



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« Reply #20 on: 23:35:13, 09-06-2008 »

I actually find that there's a rather bewildering array of genres, sub-genres and sub-sub-genre to the point where I'm not sure how anybody can keep up without being a full time journalist for a very specialist magazine.

I know what trip-hop is, for instance, I've got a fair idea about dub (dub-step anyone?), but I'm not sure about garage, less sure about speed garage and when you get into deep, dub deep and happy hardcore it might as well be in another language - it's an absolute minefield.

Every time I pick up a copy of Q I wish they'd define it a bit less thoroughly!

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Hey Ruby - you might enjoy a play around with Ishkur's Guide to Electronic Music, which is a pretty comprehensive and light-hearted primer on most sub genres up to the early 00s (no dubstep though), with lots of samples. He's pretty clueless on pioneering stuff like musique concrete and minimalism, but the rest seems like a half-decent guide to me.

Ishkur does mention musique concrete, but like most the other (sub)genres it's on the slight side. Also American's tend to be less anal about subgenre's than UK-based pundits, who just adore to make perpetual subdivisions.

Dubstep makes use of heavy dub reggae beats with dark drum and bass-style electronic sounds (often with cheesy gangster/sci fi film samples). In some respects it's providing drum and bass clubs with dark head-nodding chill-out, a contrast to the frenetics in the main dance room. Though a few dubstep-only clubs do exist. If you're at all interested, Burial, though less 'dark and dubby', is a good place to hear interesting experimentation in this subgenre.

I think 1988 refers less to acid house (which happens much earlier in the US) and more to the big outdoor raves in the UK; 'repetitive beat' nocturnal revelling by the hoi polloi that the Tories were quick to shut down (or to commercialise at least). Perhaps one of my all time favourite description of a 'rave' occurs in Tess of d'Urbervilles. The hoi polloi have always managed to dance with greater abandonment than most. I'm quite fascinated by how folk dance and contemporary electronic dance function both sociologically and musicologically.

Now, where was I? Oh yes, back to Shostakovich...
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« Reply #21 on: 23:57:46, 09-06-2008 »

Do you think there are quite a few bitten lips here, reading my posts? .

I'm more concerned about compulsive vomiting in my case.

The above sentence is true in all senses.

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« Reply #22 on: 00:06:36, 10-06-2008 »

Do you think there are quite a few bitten lips here, reading my posts? .

I'm more concerned about compulsive vomiting in my case.

The above sentence is true in all senses.


For you, Daniel, I will search out a sick-bag-emoticon and put in in my signature  Undecided
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« Reply #23 on: 00:14:02, 10-06-2008 »

Well, a perfect example of the disastrous effects of my posts.  Cheesy

John, I meant only to refer to the reactions to my own posts. Sorry that it was ambiguous.
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« Reply #24 on: 00:24:24, 10-06-2008 »

I like a lot of "dance music", especially Techno. Dave Clarke, Paul Oakenfold and Laurent Garnier are 3 of my favourites, I've got lots of their stuff on tape which I play when I'm driving - it doesn't really bear a detailed sit-in-the-armchair listen. I was very into Jungle as well at one time but, after Drum 'n' Bass, I've lost track as to where it's ended up now.
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« Reply #25 on: 00:42:20, 10-06-2008 »

I see that Paul Oakenfold's wiki entry has him down under Trance, Progressive Trance and Techno.

What's the difference between Trance and Progressive Trance?

As to House and Progressive House Huh
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« Reply #26 on: 00:56:28, 10-06-2008 »

but I'm not sure about garage

Is garage a bit like house but it's more detached? Cheesy
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« Reply #27 on: 01:04:43, 10-06-2008 »

Andy, I did like jungle and drum and bass in my day, but sorry I can't stand Trance; so I couldn't tell you the difference in that particular case.

However, 'Progressive' is an epithet generally applied to genres of dance music when they get a bit arty. IE - less danceable!

Trying to reunite the Platonic division of head and body is perhaps problematic at the best of times.

 Grin - garage gag!

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« Reply #28 on: 01:31:11, 10-06-2008 »

The hoi polloi have always managed to dance with greater abandonment than most.
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« Reply #29 on: 01:32:02, 10-06-2008 »

How much do you think this seemingly inexhaustible store of generic titles comes from the musicians or their listeners, how much is it a marketing strategy?

And how significant really are many of the differences - especially when compared to differences between collections of differently-labelled genres of dance music on one hand, and other types of music (popular or otherwise) on the other?
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