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Mary Chambers
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« Reply #4230 on: 14:58:10, 31-12-2007 »

Although I hate New Years Eve, New Year Day will find me watching/listening to the concert from Vienna accompanied by some smoked salmon and few glasses of champers. It`s a little Mort ritual and very pleasant it is too Smiley

I'm another NYE hater. Still got my stomach bug (though improving), so I'll hate the noise even more than usual.

I haven't been doing anything as  intellectual (?) as listening to Wagner. I've been watching The Tales of Beatrix Potter ballet on television. Amazing costumes. I'll watch the New Years Concert from Vienna, as well.

 

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« Reply #4231 on: 15:00:15, 31-12-2007 »

The lady of the house is very strong on the Scots tradition of the entire house being scrubbed from top to toe for the New Year: since we're off to one of the posher local hostelries for the evening (three course meal and disco) it all has to be done before we can leave.
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« Reply #4232 on: 15:00:49, 31-12-2007 »

Neither have I, PW Sad  I missed the whole of Walkure and most of Rheingold too Sad

Forgot about Rheingold, turned on the car radio just as the Gods were entering Valhalla .......  Sad  Managed to hear a bit of Walkure, though.

Milly - Act 2 of Siegfried is, IMO, among the least tractable parts of the Ring.  It's a bit late now for the broadcasts, but I'd suggest Act I of Die Walkure as a good starting point for concentrated listening.
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« Reply #4233 on: 15:02:14, 31-12-2007 »

I'm not a Wagner fan although to be fair I've never really tried to be.  I haven't given Wagner the courtesy of my full attention - ever.  Must make a resolution to give him a try this year.

Well I have Milly, I've really tried. The last one I saw live was Die Walkure at Birmingham Hippodrome. I nearly left at the 2nd interval when I seemed to have been there for about 2 days. But I met someone from work during the interval who raved about how wonderful it was - so I stayed. Besides, doesn't the hit song occur at the start of Act 3? Wink

There are some good bits in Wagner's operas though, which is why I like Liszt's transcriptions. And I suppose Tristan & Isolde's not too bad (he says grudgingly)
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« Reply #4234 on: 15:03:46, 31-12-2007 »

Thanks P-W.  I shall certainly give it a try in the New Year.  This has sounded like one long dirge so far but then I don't know anything about it so it would be unfair to comment further.
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« Reply #4235 on: 15:05:40, 31-12-2007 »

The lady of the house is very strong on the Scots tradition of the entire house being scrubbed from top to toe for the New Year: since we're off to one of the posher local hostelries for the evening (three course meal and disco) it all has to be done before we can leave.

Ye Gods Ron! If I felt that it was compulsory to hurl myself into heavy duty housework on the Eve, it would put me into an even worse humour than I might be in already! Shocked Shocked
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« Reply #4236 on: 15:09:35, 31-12-2007 »

I'd suggest Act I of Die Walkure as a good starting point for concentrated listening.

Good Heavens, I've actually got that on CD! Just Act 1 mind you. I bought it because Lotte Lehmann's on it and I'm a great fan of hers. It's a Références CD of a 1935 recording with Lauritz Melchior, Emanuel List and Bruno Walter conducting the Vienna Phil. I seem to remember that nothing's actually happening on stage so you might just as well listen to it on CD! Wink
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« Reply #4237 on: 15:11:14, 31-12-2007 »

The lady of the house is very strong on the Scots tradition of the entire house being scrubbed from top to toe for the New Year: since we're off to one of the posher local hostelries for the evening (three course meal and disco) it all has to be done before we can leave.

My grandmother was Scottish (from Motherwell) so this must be where I get the desire to have the house cleared of festive clutter and cleaned for the New Year! Have scrubbed the kitchen, tidied away books and CDs and done a load of washing. A pile of ironing awaits...

There are some good bits in Wagner's operas though, which is why I like Liszt's transcriptions. And I suppose Tristan & Isolde's not too bad (he says grudgingly)

I think you'd have got on well with Rossini, amongst whose more notable quotes are:

One can't judge Wagner's opera Lohengrin after a first hearing, and I certainly don't intend to hear it a second time

Wagner is a composer who has beautiful moments but dreadful quarters of an hour.
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« Reply #4238 on: 15:17:26, 31-12-2007 »

Mills, it drives us all mad every year: I've already all but dismantled the cooker, every bed has been stripped and all bedding washed; every laundry basket emptied and the contents laundered: when we leave tonight it will be by the kitchen door, the last one through mop-in-hand having scrubbed the floor as he goes. Meanwhile there's growing mountain of comestibles required for visits over the holiday: shortbread rounds, black bun, lentil soup, stovies, cheddar cheese. It's a two day holiday here, too, just to make matters worse....

(I'm just being reminded that the upstairs bathroom needs done.... Ho Hum...)
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« Reply #4239 on: 15:30:40, 31-12-2007 »

Blimey - as if one isn't tired enough after Christmas! Mind you. my house could do with it. I may get the Cleaning Fairies in in January - if I can get the house tidy enough for them to clean  Smiley Smiley.

Ron, I once when young spent New Year's Eve in Edinburgh, living almost entirely on black bun and whisky (the only time in my life I've ever drunk whisky), and I put on about half a stone!
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« Reply #4240 on: 15:34:03, 31-12-2007 »

Ron, I shall do all that tomorrow when everyone has gone.  Having said that, the beds are done today and I've done two loads of washing already....but the cleaning would only have to be done again tomorrow after all the visitors have done their worst.  I've made sure that downstairs is clean for them coming of course.  Grin

I'll be honest, I love receiving Christmas cards but they're really getting on my nerves at the moment.  As a show of popularity it's very flattering, but the lounge is full, the dining room is full, the hall also - and I've had to start going up the stairs with the rest.  I suppose I could have hung them up somewhere which would have been much more sensible because they keep falling down and it's impossible to dust round them.  I haven't counted them but there must be 100+.  If it wasn't for the child, I'd probably take the trees and cards down tomorrow but for his sake we'll see it through to Twelfth Night.   Still my New Year table looks great at least.
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« Reply #4241 on: 15:46:50, 31-12-2007 »

It has of course been scientifically proved that being too clean can be bad for your health.  Well that is my philosophy.   Cheesy

My g.g.g granpa, 4 children by first wife, 9 by next wife, only one infant death, if they had had anti-bacterial sprays I bet it would have been more.  No building up of immunity.  Hence high incidence of allergies these days.  They say you gotta eat a peck of dirt before you die don't they?  So I follow the Quintin Crisp philosophy, after 7 years you don't notice the dust and it doesn't get any worse!
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« Reply #4242 on: 16:19:16, 31-12-2007 »

Enthusiastically seconded, Anty ! Grin Grin
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« Reply #4243 on: 16:31:21, 31-12-2007 »

Oh dear!  Well we've all managed to survive so far in my rather clinically-clean house.  Perhaps we've just been lucky.  Wink  Nobody has asthma or anything untoward.  A few of us have a bit of hay fever in July but that's grass seed anyway....

I sometimes watch "How Clean is Your House".  It absolutely fascinates me!  Some people haven't cleaned their kitchens or toilets or changed their bedlinen for ten years or more!  Why aren't they dead?  Aggie takes all sorts of samples and swabs and finds E-coli, salmonella - you name it!  They must obviously be immune I suppose although a lot of them are ill with dust mite allergies, asthma etc., and quite a few of them seem to be morbidly obese.  I don't know what the connection there would be unless it's that they've let themselves get so big they haven't the energy to clean any more.

Whatever the rights and wrongs are about whether cleaning up is healthy or not, let's face it, the place looks and smells so much better when it's all been cleaned.  I think we're more clued-in now about eco-friendly products as well like white vinegar and lemons rather than expensive aerosols.  There's nothing as gorgeous as slipping exhausted into beautifully laundered fresh bedlinen, especially when it's been dried outside.

I'll get me pinny.
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« Reply #4244 on: 16:36:25, 31-12-2007 »

I'm allergic to silicone based sprays, which helps somewhat - I actually have to leave the house for some of the cleaning. It sounds like a great excuse, but the results aren't pleasant if I catch some by mistake (swollen lips, throat and eyelids, difficulty in breathing etc.).
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