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« Reply #7170 on: 23:26:11, 04-09-2008 »

Antheil: your AUNT was Aneurin Beven???   Shocked
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« Reply #7171 on: 06:56:11, 05-09-2008 »

They Job Centre people dont help the unemployed very much either. I was on my own all the time there, apart from my personal adviser who was the best man there. Could'nt fault him at all.
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« Reply #7172 on: 19:17:57, 05-09-2008 »

I developed red spotts all over, especially on my hands.
It could be allergy, though I never had it.

I tried to contact my doctor, but he is not available.
Could this be a reaction on antibiotics that I am taking?

I will wait and see. I don't want to panic now. In a worse case scenario I will go to the emergency room.

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« Reply #7173 on: 20:01:22, 05-09-2008 »

Mention of Aneurin Bevan always draws me into the realm of political conjecture.

He's remembered today as a left-winger...but at the time of his early death in 1960, he was moving to the right. He'd become a strong supporter of nuclear weapons, the first issue on which he'd broken with his traditional left-wing supporters (coining the famous phrases 'naked into the conference chamber' and 'an emotional spasm'). It's likely that if he'd continued in this way, he would have arrived at a position somewhat similar to that occupied by Denis Healey during the 74-79 government.  I somehow doubt that he would have left Labour, though....and I couldn't see him going the whole hog (as I think his son did) and joining the Tories.
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« Reply #7174 on: 20:20:36, 05-09-2008 »

Mention of Aneurin Bevan always draws me into the realm of political conjecture.

He's remembered today as a left-winger...but at the time of his early death in 1960, he was moving to the right. He'd become a strong supporter of nuclear weapons, the first issue on which he'd broken with his traditional left-wing supporters (coining the famous phrases 'naked into the conference chamber' and 'an emotional spasm'). It's likely that if he'd continued in this way, he would have arrived at a position somewhat similar to that occupied by Denis Healey during the 74-79 government.  I somehow doubt that he would have left Labour, though....and I couldn't see him going the whole hog (as I think his son did) and joining the Tories.

I'm not sure he really was moving to the right.  Bevan's last Labour Party conference speech demonstrates a powerful condemnation of the values of market capitalism, in language that is hugely resonant today (and condemns New Labour as much as anyone):

Bevan expands on the theme of the 1959 election defeat and the apparent satisfaction of people with their economic and social condition - the riposte to never having had it so good:

"What is the lesson for us? It is that we must enlarge and expand those personalities, so that they can become again conscious of limitation and constriction. The problem is one of education, not of surrender! This so-called affluent society is an ugly society still. It is a vulgar society. It is a meretricious society. It is a society in which priorities have gone all wrong. I once said -- and I do not want to quote myself too frequently -- that the language of priorities was the religion of Socialism, and there is nothing wrong with that statement either, but you can only get your priorities right if you have the power to put them right, and the argument, comrades, is about power in society. If we managed to get a majority in Great Britain by the clever exploitation of contemporary psychology, and we did not get the commanding heights of the economy in our power, then we did not get the priorities right. The argument is about power and only about power, because only by the possession of power can you get the priorities correct..."

"I have enough faith in my fellow creatures in Great Britain to believe that when they have got over the delirium of television, when they realise that their new homes are mortgaged to the hilt, when they realise the moneylender has been elevated to the highest position in the land, when they realise that the refinements for which they should look are not there, that it is a vulgar society of which no decent person could proud ... when they realise all the tides of history are flooding in our direction, that we are not beaten, that we represent the future: then, when we say it and mean it, we shall lead our people to where they deserve to be led."

(The whole speech is worth reading.  It appears not to be available on the web but it is reproduced in full in Michael Foot's biography)

Incidentally, I'm not sure that Bevan and Jennie Lee had any children.  Attlee's son certainly did join the SDP, and the current Earl Attlee, Clement Attlee's grandson, is a Tory front-bencher in the Lords.  I've met him - he is chairman of a trade association with whom I have had professional dealings - and is a charming man with an uncanny resemblance to his grandfather.  But it is interesting to note in these days of politicised spouses that Clement Attlee's wife was a lifelong Tory.
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« Reply #7175 on: 20:44:48, 05-09-2008 »

I developed red spotts all over, especially on my hands.
It could be allergy, though I never had it.

I tried to contact my doctor, but he is not available.
Could this be a reaction on antibiotics that I am taking?



Yes, it could be. It has happened to me. When I first saw your post I thought of suggesting a drug rash, but I don't think you mentioned the antibiotics at first.
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« Reply #7176 on: 20:51:02, 05-09-2008 »

I did not want to say that I am taking antibiotics.

I have two be two more days on it. And tomorrow is Saturday, so our doctor is not working.
It could be from antibiotics or from ready made soup that I bought in the supermarket. It is very red now. I never had anything like that before.

t-p said not to panic. I am trying. Should I keep taking antibiotics tomorrow? I can call my friend the doctor.
Thank you, Mary Chambers.

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« Reply #7177 on: 21:02:15, 05-09-2008 »

tp, if you are that concerned about the problem you can call NHS Direct on 0845 4647. This is recommended by the website of Health and Social Care in Northern Ireland. You will be able to speak to a nurse and, if necessary, a doctor. I have always found them to be very helpful.
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« Reply #7178 on: 21:09:58, 05-09-2008 »

But Galway's in Eire, not Ulster, Mort.
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« Reply #7179 on: 21:21:21, 05-09-2008 »

Ah well, that's what Mr Google came up with. Another look gives 0035481523122, but I suspect that's a week day only number.
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« Reply #7180 on: 21:24:53, 05-09-2008 »

I am sending an SMS to my friend the doctor-woman.

She will calm me down (I don't want to worry t-p). He is watching TV.
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« Reply #7181 on: 21:37:50, 05-09-2008 »

I got a phone call right away after my SMS.
She thinks it is allergic reaction to this particular antibiotic. She said to stop taking it, drink a lot of water (tea), make myself dry bread, don't eat oranges or tomatoes or anything that can make allergies worse.
She doesn't think I should go to the hospital, but should remember the name of the drug and not to take it again.


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« Reply #7182 on: 21:44:18, 05-09-2008 »

Oh gosh.  That's nasty, t-p.  I hope you're feeling better soon.
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« Reply #7183 on: 22:12:05, 05-09-2008 »

I had a violent reaction to penicillin when I had my wisdom teeth out when I was 27. That's why I thought I recognised t-p's rash. I felt very sick as well, and I was also told never to have it, or related drugs, again. It's the only bad allergy I've ever had.

You'd better tell the doctor who gave you the antibiotic about it, when the surgery is next open.
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« Reply #7184 on: 22:16:56, 05-09-2008 »

Probably worth getting a medical alert necklace or bracelet, too, so that if you're ever rushed to hospital unconscious they don't try to pump you full of the stuff, t-p.
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