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brassbandmaestro
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« Reply #7410 on: 17:52:07, 12-09-2008 »

I tending to agree about foreign holidays. We've been to, as you guys may remember, to Cornwall. Lovely!
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« Reply #7411 on: 18:03:38, 12-09-2008 »

My sympathy always goes out to those poor travellers in  this kind of situation. Surely, their travel insurance would deal with that?

There was a representative of ABTA interviewed on the PM programme who said that most travel insurance doesn't cover failure by a scheduled airline, and people should check very carefully.  

My mistake was to assume that Eurostar would actually make some effort to help their customers.  Certainly, in Brussels last night there was no sign of any support at all.  I know Brussels well and thus my first instinct was to find a hotel - they are invariably busy and expensive - and at least I knew where the more salubrious ones were (around Bruxelles Midi station is not a particularly good area and some of the hotels are not good - by some miracle the one I usually use, which is a bit nearer the city centre and rather pleasant, had a room, but I paid handsomely for it).  And there was no help at all with making flight bookings - no contingency plans at all, apparently.  The staff were indifferent and rude, claimed the customer service team was "too busy" to deal with passengers (!) and the phone number they gave me for the customer services department connected me to the Electoral Services Department of Brentwood District Council (I kid you not).  

I noticed on the BBC News last night that Eurostar staff at St Pancras were assisting travellers with finding hotels and booking flights, so it's obviously a Brussels problem.  Perhaps if we'd had camera crews on site like they had in London and Paris, the staff might have bothered.  The attitude of Swiss Airlines when I got stranded in Basel a while ago thanks to a broken down aircraft was completely different; with almost miraculous speed we were booked on early flights the following day and whisked off to hotels (I was asked whether I had any objection to staying in Germany, which amused me).  A different world, but then that's Basel for you.

Eurostar claims to offer a premium service but emerged from this more like the Ryanair of the permanent way.

Ye gods!

I've just read that there were 300 - yes 300!!!! firefighters trying to tackle that blaze.  It's a wonder there were no fatalities because there were noxious gases too and smoke.  It's a miracle there were only minor injuries.  People on the train were having to break windows to get out because train carriages are sealed nowadays (whose stupid idea was it to seal carriages then?) and then it was into a smoke-filled area.

Oh bugler that for a game of soldiers!  I'm NEVER going down it.  I shall stay above and take my chances with a choppy English Channel.  Shocked

Actually, for all this, I remain a great fan of the Tunnel (but then I get very seasick!).  On the two occasions when they have had fires they have got everyone out safely, and the emergency procedures have worked, which is really quite reassuring.  And I still regard the Eurostar as one of the most civilised ways to travel - when it works.  But clearly at the Brussels end at least they have a lot of work to do.
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« Reply #7412 on: 18:11:56, 12-09-2008 »

Your situation invokes great sympathy, pw. I have only once been in a similar situation (when a Eurostar train sliced in two a cow who had strayed onto the track), but they were similarly unhelpful then.
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« Reply #7413 on: 19:17:58, 12-09-2008 »

Your situation invokes great sympathy, pw. I have only once been in a similar situation (when a Eurostar train sliced in two a cow who had strayed onto the track), but they were similarly unhelpful then.
Well, you must admit that the cow is by then beyond help.  Embarrassed

When I was at Heathrow last July, I was too cheap to take a hotel room, so I stayed up all night catching up on correspondence in the Heathrow Hilton's front lobby. I just sat on a sofa there minding me own business, certainly not taking up much room and most certainly not sleeping (not even wearing my pajamas and stocking cap!) -- but at 2am a fellow came by and asked me to leave. So I wandered Heathrow proper for the remainder of the night and morning.

SILVER LINING: upon my return to the US I was so tired and disoriented that I had no problem readjusting to the new/old time zone.
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« Reply #7414 on: 19:23:23, 12-09-2008 »

All these travel disasters just as Janthefan and her man are about to set off (EasyJet) for a much-longed-for holiday !!!!

Eeeek!

x Jan x
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« Reply #7415 on: 20:03:12, 12-09-2008 »

People on the train were having to break windows to get out because train carriages are sealed nowadays (whose stupid idea was it to seal carriages then?) and then it was into a smoke-filled area.
Forgive me if I'm missing something, but wouldn't you prefer to be in a sealed train carriage if the area outside was filled with noxious smoke? Undecided

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« Reply #7416 on: 20:07:47, 12-09-2008 »

NS: Stevie Wonder, Innervisions

Splendid. Visions is a masterpiece IMHO
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« Reply #7417 on: 22:21:07, 12-09-2008 »

People on the train were having to break windows to get out because train carriages are sealed nowadays (whose stupid idea was it to seal carriages then?) and then it was into a smoke-filled area.
Forgive me if I'm missing something, but wouldn't you prefer to be in a sealed train carriage if the area outside was filled with noxious smoke? Undecided

NS: Stevie Wonder, Innervisions

Apparently they were breaking the windows to escape the flames and tremendous heat.  I'd rather be outside and gassed than inside and fried.  Presumably the flames had spread from the lorry.
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« Reply #7418 on: 22:33:48, 12-09-2008 »

My mobile has died on me Sad I was going to use the stopwatch to time the rice to go with my curry but it showed something like 93hours! So I took the battery out and, when I put it back in, the phone was dead, it was no more. I'll have to go and buy a new one tomorrow, I'm lost without it. I've had it for almost 4 years so it must be a bit of an antique.
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« Reply #7419 on: 22:42:42, 12-09-2008 »

Mucho condolences Andy Cry I've had a couple die on me in the last few years. After the first feelings of disbelief comes the anguished 'NOOOOOOOOO!'. I hate being without my mobile. I don't use it as a phone that much but it's great for keeping in 'text touch' with people that I don't see that often.
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« Reply #7420 on: 22:48:56, 12-09-2008 »

What is the average life expectancy of a mobile, anyway? I've had mine (my first!) for over three years now and expect it to conk out at any moment. But it seems virile enough.  Cool On the other hand, I hardly ever use it, and was very dubious about buying it in the first place. Only about eight people have my number. Four of them are on this board.  Cheesy
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« Reply #7421 on: 23:16:41, 12-09-2008 »

I suppose 4 years is pretty near retirement age for a mobile. My brother gets a new one every year, though they aren't always an improvement. Mine's definitely showing its age, the keys are very tatty and the on-off switch has disintegrated. I'm going into Tesco to get a new one - I've got £17 plus lots of free talk minutes on my current Tesco SIM so I hope I'll be able to transfer them over without too much difficulty.
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« Reply #7422 on: 23:53:26, 12-09-2008 »

What is the average life expectancy of a mobile, anyway?
Varies: most of mine have been stolen before they've died, but then I lead a more dangerous life than some ... Wink

Since the disappearance of my most recently-acquired handset (which was itself just over a year old at the time), I've gone back to using my previous one, which is the only one I've ever managed to hold on to after upgrading. It still seems to be running fine, actually, and must be around 3 years old now.

They do actually benefit from a certain amount of usage. If you leave one turned off for weeks or months on end, a lithium ion battery will lose some durability rather than benefitting from the rest.

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Only about eight people have my number. Four of them are on this board.  Cheesy
And one of them's lost it anyway! Cheesy
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« Reply #7423 on: 23:55:06, 12-09-2008 »

I've had my Nokia for eight years. It's getting to the stage where I feel rather embarrassed to get it out in public, but it works. It doesn't take photos or anything, but why would I want it to?
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« Reply #7424 on: 08:07:30, 13-09-2008 »

I've had my Nokia for eight years. It's getting to the stage where I feel rather embarrassed to get it out in public, but it works. It doesn't take photos or anything, but why would I want it to?

You'd be surprised Mary.  I thought that at first, but I'm really glad mine takes pics.  Sometimes when you're out there's a situation just crying out for a photo - an example being when I witnessed someone reverse into a parked car and then drive off.  I was able to take a pic of the escaping number plate, the number of which I wrote down and put behind the parked car's windscreen wipers.  You can transfer the photos on to your computer when you get home - I've taken pics of nice dogs and attractive young men scenery..... Grin Grin Grin
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