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Author Topic: Prokofiev - composer of the week  (Read 955 times)
oliver sudden
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« Reply #15 on: 23:07:28, 18-07-2007 »

I think I'm the only person on this planet who thinks that Prokofiev's Second Violin Concerto is better that the First Violin Concerto.

No, Pim: there are at least two of us.

Make that three. I'm really surprised that the slow movement hasn't achieved the 'hit status' of the Classical Symphony.
I love the way Prokofiev produces flow after flow of beautiful melodies - another favourite is the opening 'May Night' scene of his opera 'War and Peace'.

Add another one - fantastic piece (and the first movement is another fine counterexample to Ron's observation... Wink)
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« Reply #16 on: 23:50:40, 18-07-2007 »

Looks like I'm the only person in the world who prefers the first to the second! I do like the second, but the first would be amongst my desert island discs. I melt when I hear the opening (and the end of the first movement) and there are parts of the third movement that I enjoy in the same way as I enjoy a ghost story, if that makes sense. And I love all the other bits too.

Favourite piano concerto? The first.  Kiss
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« Reply #17 on: 00:11:50, 19-07-2007 »

Tony, I prefer the first violin concerto too, for exactly the reasons you give! (Hadn't quite thought of the 3rd mt like that but I think I know what you mean.)

Don't like the 1st piano concerto though; I used to really enjoy the 3rd but was less thrilled last time I heard it. Don't really know the others well enough. Embarrassed

I've never really got on with the 5th symphony either - that tune (!) just comes round too many times for me, I'm afraid. I like the 6th very much though.

Piano Sonatas - Nos 2 and 3 I like; have never taken to No 7. It's probably almost 20 years since I last did a listening cycle...

There's so much of his stuff I don't know, and, if I'm honest, probably never will: he's one of those composers who I quite enjoy without ever (or only rarely) really engaging with. I do admire his melodic gift and the way he combines it with some interesting textures - sometimes surprisingly delicate and subtle - despite its familiarity, I still think Romeo and Juliet is a great score from that point of view. And one relative rarity - the Cantata for the 20th Anniversary of the October Revolution; I think that has the edge for me over Alexander Nevsky.
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« Reply #18 on: 00:14:52, 19-07-2007 »

rm, I do heartily recommend to you the 2nd piano concerto !
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« Reply #19 on: 00:28:02, 19-07-2007 »

thanks auto - I have a recording somewhere so will give it another go!
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« Reply #20 on: 00:42:50, 19-07-2007 »

And:

Prom 59: London Symphony Orchestra
Time: 7.30pm - c9.55pm
Venue ROYAL ALBERT HALL

Broadcasts
Live on BBC FOUR
Live on BBC Radio 3
Available as audio on demand
for the following week
Valery Gergiev, having succeeded Sir Colin Davis at the helm of the LSO, conducts an all-Russian programme, reflecting the Proms' Shakespeare theme with Tchaikovsky's fantasy overtures inspired by Romeo and Juliet and Hamlet. Continuing our series of works introduced at the Proms since the BBC became involved are Prokofiev's fiendishly virtuosic Piano Concerto No.2 and the striking Symphony No.7, both hits of the 1950s.

Tchaikovsky
Fantasy Overture 'Romeo and Juliet' (21 mins)
Prokofiev
Piano Concerto No. 2 in G minor (34 mins)

Interval

Tchaikovsky
Fantasy Overture 'Hamlet' (18 mins)
Prokofiev
Symphony No. 7 in C sharp minor (32 mins)
Alexander Toradze piano
London Symphony Orchestra
Valery Gergiev conductor
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Chafing Dish
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« Reply #21 on: 19:18:34, 25-07-2007 »

huge great wodges of his stuff...
What is a wodge? Are there small ones?
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« Reply #22 on: 21:34:30, 25-07-2007 »

CD, it roughly translates as 'bunch'.  Smiley
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oliver sudden
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« Reply #23 on: 21:46:30, 25-07-2007 »

CD, it roughly translates as 'bunch'.  Smiley
Ah, I was wondering there if I might have made it up. Indeed perhaps I did and martle read my thoughts...
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« Reply #24 on: 21:56:51, 25-07-2007 »

No, Ollie - 'wodge' is a perfectly acceptable and established term on these shores for denoting a non-specific but not insubstantial 'amount' of stuff.

Martle, OED rookie.
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« Reply #25 on: 00:29:34, 26-07-2007 »

Some authorities express a preference for 'wadge' citing the word's purported origins in 'wad', possibly conflated with 'wedge'. However this derivation is itself contested and opponents argue that the word 'wodge/wadge', however spelled, or even spelt, predated 'wad' by, ooh, yonks. 'Wadge' is now losing ground to ''wodge' by, I dunno, buckets. 

A 'wodger', by contrast, is a term of abuse and is used principaly to refer disparagingly to a Controller of BBC R3. Just how much of a wodger he is bears little or no relation to the size of his wodge, or possibly wadge.

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Chafing Dish
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« Reply #26 on: 02:13:05, 26-07-2007 »

Seems a wadge would be bigger than a wodge, since one opens the mouth a bit wider.

Say the following quickly:

Wake a wadge of widget-whacking codgers. Watch the witches whack a wodge of widgets.
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