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BobbyZ
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« Reply #30 on: 13:37:46, 07-07-2007 »
Alex

It did seem particularly perverse to go to the trouble of taking a crew to the gig and then use it to film in the foyer and point the camera more at the audience than the stage. As you say, I used to think of a snippet of music in terms of a couple of minutes but in these days of attention span deficit, snippets seems to have shrunk to seconds. Hope you get more coverage some time, somewhere.
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« Reply #31 on: 15:44:32, 07-07-2007 »
If the conclusion ws that classical music ws a million diff things why try and go through every single one without a shred of depth or discussion?

"But its an introduction to ppl who don't know a thing xyzzzz__" is what the producer might say but I'd prefer a more novel argument to be made instead of going for the dull "weren't the 60s really radical and innovative but we found the public wsn't buying so everyone went all eclectic and now we have ipods isn't this so much better" - type nonsense!!That and a concentration upon the possible failures and successes completely destroyed any chance of this 'account' being any good at all. If classical is something better than 'Mcdonaldization' then making the basis of yr success on knighthoods, an item on Newsnight review, or bums on seats for a cpl of nights at the opera (when all of this will need a gd amount of funding anyway) isn't exactly the way to go.

Otoh there is something to be said for the scattershot approach. Dr Who theme in the 2nd ep (I like Radiophonic workshop and I'm glad the non-concert hall project made it), and the couple snogging to a slab of classical fm to Christopher Redgate on the 3rd ep ws quite funny.

(Really must visit Rational Rec in the coming season -- been meaning to in forever, but its a bit far. And RR seem to come out of ideas from the 60s and 70s, so I didn't get the line about how all those experiments 'failed'.)

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« Reply #32 on: 16:03:21, 07-07-2007 »
I rather liked James Macmillan's typically self-effacing comment which went something along the lines: "People will eventually tire of the shallow and nondescript and be hungry again for music which is profound, deep and significant. When that happens I'm just glad I will be there to provide it."

Well, OK, not quite verbatim...  Wink
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« Reply #33 on: 19:00:59, 08-07-2007 »
Quote from: Ron Dough on 08:55:40, 07-07-2007
Haven't seen the last two episodes yet, PW, though they're sitting on my hard drive. If you miss Sunday's repeat and are still interested, send me a PM...

Ron.

Many thanks, Ron, but I have put on my Victorian paterfamilias act and have secured an uninterrupted hour in front of the TV.  It helps not to be competing against a time-lord.   Smiley
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« Reply #34 on: 20:08:01, 08-07-2007 »
Well, just watched part 3 (and disclaim any responsibility for my own superimposed appearance) - cack from beginning to end. Finnissy had a few interesting things to say (but of course they'd keep pushing him on the question of 'New Complexity'). Overall hardly a word on anything to do with the actual music, also almost nothing on any British composers (other than Birtwistle and Finnissy to an extent) who have anything of a solid reputation abroad. A huge wasted opportunity.

(should this be in The Grumpy Old Rant Room?)
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« Reply #35 on: 19:19:18, 10-07-2007 »
Quote from: BobbyZ on 13:37:46, 07-07-2007
It did seem particularly perverse to go to the trouble of taking a crew to the gig and then use it to film in the foyer and point the camera more at the audience than the stage. As you say, I used to think of a snippet of music in terms of a couple of minutes but in these days of attention span deficit, snippets seems to have shrunk to seconds. Hope you get more coverage some time, somewhere.

I actually thought that was the most interesting part of the programme. Didn't you learn a lot more by looking at that particular audience than by looking at the performers? I certainly did!
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