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Author Topic: Voice - o - phobia  (Read 1012 times)
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« Reply #15 on: 19:17:52, 13-02-2007 »

Ho Oliver.  You posted   "(Although of course no sensible composer gets the whole orchestra actually to be going for it at any moment the singer actually has to be heard...)"

Puccini damn well did in Turandot particularly when Calaf is reaching skywards.

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« Reply #16 on: 23:12:57, 13-02-2007 »

Just wanted to say how interesting I find this thread, especially the first post because my experience is totally opposite. For me opera is the section of classical music which I am most comfortable with & have been since I started seriously listening to classical music some six years ago. I think it is because I got into opera via musicals (I can see all the purists backing away in horror!) and operettas so was used to a style that was at least approaching opera. I think it also helphed because I never had the problem some people have found of apparently finding people singing unatural. In fact my problem is when I go to ballets and find myself thinking all the mime is fine but it would be so much clearer if they'd just sing!

Also re the amplified/unamplified I recently went to a musical for the first time in something like 3 years and after being so used to unamplified voices it was a real aural shock with all the amplification. I definitely would rather hear unamplified singers. The other thing I noticed was the lack of spatial variation in the voices, by which I mean at opera when a singer turns upstage you can hear the difference as well as sing it but when the singers are miked the voices don't really move when the singers do, which I found most peculiar.
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« Reply #17 on: 18:29:30, 14-02-2007 »

BobbyZ
Do you like Emma Kirkby's voice? I love the purity of sound there.
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« Reply #18 on: 19:00:01, 14-02-2007 »

Hi SusanDoris

Yes, Emma Kirkby's is the kind of voice that I have found most easy to take.
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« Reply #19 on: 19:12:32, 14-02-2007 »

Emma Kirkby is my all-time favourite.  Clear as a bell and pure. 
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« Reply #20 on: 10:22:42, 20-02-2007 »

When I began investigating classical music about seven years ago after 25 years of blues, jazz and rock, I plunged magpie like into orchestral, chamber and instrumental repertoire but had this problem with the operatic voice ( for want of a better term ).
Interesting topic, Mr. Z. It could almost be me writing the above statement!

I still struggle with the "operatic voice", and though I'm starting to appreciate opera more, my general opinion is "nice music, shame they had to have singing in it  Cheesy

I do like music for chorus rather than for solo voice. I also found I like older vocal music (baroque or earlier) more than recent (18th-19th centruy) vocal music. And finally I isolated the problem I have with the "operatic voice" -- it's the "warble" factor, or excessive vibrato that puts me off. I prefer the more "pure" tones of older-style singing. (Apologies if I'm not using the correct technical terms; I hope people understand what I'm trying to say.)

Incidentally I find the same is true of modern (pop) singers. I much prefer voices that hold a pure note over those who warble all over the place. Sadly, warbling is the "in" thing these days.

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