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Oh wait... [...] with the blessing of equal temperament there entered into the world of music - lest the bliss of musical mortals be complete - a curse as well: the curse of too easy achievement of tone-connections. The tremendous growth of piano music in the last century is attributable to it, and in the "atonal" style I see its final fulfilment - the uncritical idolatry of tempered tuning. and But since organic work, growing out of natural roots, will always stand on a firmer basis than the arbitrary combination of different elements, polytonality is not a practical principle of composition. |
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My first attempt in over 5 years to read anything auf Deutsch,  But bugger is it slow going. Got through page 1 yesterday, and page 2 today. And by 'go through' I mean I sort of can recognise things that I already knew, but there are whole passages whose content still rather eludes me. I figure I give it 'til page 20; if things haven't speeded/cleared up by then, I'll call it quits. |
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« Reply #243 on: 13:01:07, 23-03-2008 » |
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Perhaps you can try a different book in German, increpatio? Hoffmann isn't a very easy writer.
Perhaps you can try a children's book? I learned to read German and French quite well by starting with novels and verses specially written for children.
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Perhaps you can try a different book in German, increpatio? Hoffmann isn't a very easy writer.
Perhaps you can try a children's book? I learned to read German and French quite well by starting with novels and verses specially written for children.
Hmm: the only other book auf Deutsch I have to hand is Schoenberg's Harmonielehre. Oh, and Faust. Your suggestion is a good one (In truth, back when I bought the Hoffmann I had thought it would be a little bit easier going than, in fact, it is). |
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« Reply #245 on: 14:04:38, 23-03-2008 » |
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If you want to improve your knowledge of German words you can learn German poems by hard and search for the words that you don't know in a dictionary. You can learn these words then (English-German): it's a very easy and helpful way to learn words. For this Faust you don't have to know any German: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylZDkRB_zcs&feature=relatedAh, those Four Riders of the Apocalypse!  |
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« Reply #246 on: 15:33:49, 23-03-2008 » |
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« Reply #248 on: 19:41:05, 24-03-2008 » |
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I've just finished Lionel Shriver's "We Need To Talk About Kevin" chosen by my Book Club....
......GAWD! it's horrible !!!!!!!!!!!!! I feel traumatised.
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« Reply #249 on: 23:22:43, 24-03-2008 » |
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My first attempt in over 5 years to read anything auf Deutsch Meine Güte, mate. 5 Jahre lang hast du nichts auf Deutsch gelesen und du fängst wieder an mit einem Buch mit dem Genitiv schon im Titel. Tapfer! |
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« Reply #250 on: 01:05:15, 25-03-2008 » |
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Vielleicht hofft er, dass ein Genitiv im Titel keine Genitiven(?) im Buch bedeutet!
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« Reply #251 on: 02:54:37, 25-03-2008 » |
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Perhaps you can try a different book in German, increpatio? Hoffmann isn't a very easy writer.
Perhaps you can try a children's book? I learned to read German and French quite well by starting with novels and verses specially written for children.
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Vielleicht hofft er, dass ein Genitiv im Titel keine Genitiven(?) im Buch bedeutet!
(ho ho ho) I also recommend for this purpose Hesse's Siddhartha.
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« Reply #253 on: 09:19:14, 25-03-2008 » |
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Isn't Heinrich Boll usually the top recommendation for readers wishing to learn German?
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« Reply #254 on: 09:31:39, 25-03-2008 » |
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A girlfriend of non-blessed memory recommended Siddharta to me for the purpose as well. That did however have the Nebenwirkung that I'm now highly unlikely ever to finish reading it. |
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