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Author Topic: This week, I have been mostly reading  (Read 11300 times)
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« Reply #300 on: 11:16:35, 07-04-2008 »

Ah, so it does. Hooray! Grin
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« Reply #301 on: 12:08:42, 07-04-2008 »

As it happens, I am currently re-reading Some Tame Gazelle at the moment.  I am recognising bits which must have entered deep in my consciousness:

"Lady Clara's progress was slow and stately but profitable.  She bought some jam, two marrows, half a dozen lavender sachets, a tea cosy, a pair of bed socks, some paper spills in a fancy case and an embroidered Radio Times cover."

A whole disappeared world is brought to life in that one sentence, as remote from most of us now as the Byzantine court or the funerals of the pharaohs.
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« Reply #302 on: 14:10:41, 07-04-2008 »

I'm currently re-reading Joe Orton's Diaries. Wonder if Don B is familiar with them?
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« Reply #303 on: 14:17:15, 07-04-2008 »

"Fancied a bit of sex, so I popped up the Holloway Road."

I have not actually read them but my other half has, from which I remember the above quote.

The library where he and his partner defaced books is opposite the nearest good fishmonger.

I saw the film Prick Up Your Ears when it came out.

My Pym antidote is Dostoevsky's The Adolescent which I have heard for years was the fifth of great late novel, but I have never seen a copy until last week and I bought it.  (Memo to self - read in the next six months.)
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« Reply #304 on: 14:23:02, 07-04-2008 »

By the way, Johnson fans: the fantastic The Unfortunates has been (re?)-reprinted by Picador and can now be got for £20 or under (I remember only a few months ago I was looking for it and all the copies I could find were pretty expensive, then the other week I was in Waterstones and saw a whole pile of them so I guess they've done another run or whatever it is).

Having won similar amount on the National I think it's time to treat myself to my very own copy...
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« Reply #305 on: 14:58:43, 07-04-2008 »

"Fancied a bit of sex, so I popped up the Holloway Road."

I have not actually read them but my other half has, from which I remember the above quote.

The library where he and his partner defaced books is opposite the nearest good fishmonger.

I saw the film Prick Up Your Ears when it came out.

My Pym antidote is Dostoevsky's The Adolescent which I have heard for years was the fifth of great late novel, but I have never seen a copy until last week and I bought it.  (Memo to self - read in the next six months.)

By the nearest good fishmonger, you do mean Steve Hatt, don't you?

I regularly drive down the Holoway Road: it may - still -be a great place to shop for casual, no-strings homosexual sex, but it's hell on earth for drivers!
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« Reply #306 on: 20:18:50, 09-04-2008 »

The library where he and his partner defaced books is opposite the nearest good fishmonger.
Just catching up on the past week's threads. That sentence is the quote of the week so far, I think!

I'm not sure the Holloway Rd is the best place for cruising, Swan_Knight. I can only remember ever having picked up one guy there.

(Well, two actually, but thinking back I wish I hadn't bothered with the second.)

matticus, if you're talking about Waterstone's on Deansgate they certainly had plenty of copies of that reprint of The Unfortunates at Christmas, when I was last in Manchester.
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« Reply #307 on: 21:26:04, 09-04-2008 »

matticus, if you're talking about Waterstone's on Deansgate they certainly had plenty of copies of that reprint of The Unfortunates at Christmas, when I was last in Manchester.

Went in today and they only had one - I didn't buy it cause I thought I could probably get it cheaper online (yay) and it was a bit grubby. I did however procure The Erasers for a mere £5.95 -- there's another copy sitting there still for anyone who wants it.

Also decided I require a copy of Celine's Castle to Castle so in the basket that goes (it's only money)
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« Reply #308 on: 01:45:15, 10-04-2008 »

got this in the post today



I didn't know it was a sort of sequel to cosmicomics, so naturally I was delighted to find myself reading more of the life and times of Qfwfq.  wheeeeeee.

more calvino on its way as well.  but first: t-zero.

(haven't encountered any really top-quality shorts in t-zero yet: i've only read the first three though)
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« Reply #309 on: 12:53:32, 10-04-2008 »

Over the last week I've read "Quantum Physics and Theology an Unexpected Kinship" by John Polkinghorne.  It's excellently written and he puts the case for the two subjects eloquently.  Unfortunately the kinship still eludes me unfortunately. Other than that both concepts require an act of faith.  I fully acknowledge that somewhere I've probably missed the point.  Highly recommended anyway.

I've just started "God's Undertaker.  Has Science buried God?" by John C. Lennox.  Again brilliantly written and so far is resonating with me much more perhaps because it's nearer to what I want to believe. 

In my ceaseless quest for enlightenment on a spiritual level, I'm a voracious reader on the subject.  I've read the opposing views in full i.e. Dawkins/Hawking/Penrose etc., so I thought I'd have another try with the other side.
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« Reply #310 on: 13:09:37, 10-04-2008 »

Over the last week I've read "Quantum Physics and Theology an Unexpected Kinship" by John Polkinghorne.  It's excellently written and he puts the case for the two subjects eloquently.  Unfortunately the kinship still eludes me unfortunately. Other than that both concepts require an act of faith.
I'm wondering what kind of act of faith is "required" by quantum physics. One can believe in one or other of the possible interpretations of what's "really going on" on the mysterious time/space scale of quantum mechanics but, luckily, one doesn't need to believe in any of them for experimental results to be predicted with great accuracy (so that things like computers can be made to work). Science simply doesn't deal in beliefs but in theories, and so surely can't have any "kinship" with religion, which has nothing to do with theories.
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« Reply #311 on: 13:40:30, 10-04-2008 »

Over the last week I've read "Quantum Physics and Theology an Unexpected Kinship" by John Polkinghorne.  It's excellently written and he puts the case for the two subjects eloquently.  Unfortunately the kinship still eludes me unfortunately. Other than that both concepts require an act of faith.
I'm wondering what kind of act of faith is "required" by quantum physics. One can believe in one or other of the possible interpretations of what's "really going on" on the mysterious time/space scale of quantum mechanics but, luckily, one doesn't need to believe in any of them for experimental results to be predicted with great accuracy (so that things like computers can be made to work). Science simply doesn't deal in beliefs but in theories, and so surely can't have any "kinship" with religion, which has nothing to do with theories.

With regard to quantum physics I think faith is very often required.  Not all theories are absolutely provable.

Your last sentence is exactly what I think too which is why I'm having problems with the "unexpected kinship" part.  The point of the book seems to be to connect Theology to Quantum Physics but I just can't see it.  I need to have it explained to me in a different way.  Perhaps the "Idiots Guide to the Unexpected Kinship between Theology and Quantum Physics".  Grin
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« Reply #312 on: 13:43:34, 10-04-2008 »

With regard to quantum physics I think faith is very often required.  Not all theories are absolutely provable.

Indeed no scientific theories are absolutely provable, and that's what makes them scientific. The only faith one needs to have is that science is worth doing at all. Whether one thinks it has some deeper ontological significance is a matter of taste.
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« Reply #313 on: 14:15:08, 10-04-2008 »

Whether one thinks it has some deeper ontological significance is a matter of taste.

Whether we think it has may be a matter of taste. But whether it has a deeper ontological significance may be a matter of fact, if not one we can necessarily ever get our claws into?

[Oh, all right <pre-emptive submission Smiley>. Whether that question is or isn't meaningful could be said to be a matter of taste too, and so on probably ad infinitum. It's a fair cop. And yet ... ]

I do agree with Milly that John Polkinghorne is always both a very good read and well worth paying attention to. Nice man too.  
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« Reply #314 on: 14:17:26, 10-04-2008 »

With regard to quantum physics I think faith is very often required.  Not all theories are absolutely provable.

Indeed no scientific theories are absolutely provable, and that's what makes them scientific. The only faith one needs to have is that science is worth doing at all. Whether one thinks it has some deeper ontological significance is a matter of taste.



Mmm. I have faith that science is worth doing that's for sure.  Whether it has some deeper ontological significance I just don't know.

After I've finished this book I've got two more lined up, namely "The End of Faith" by Sam Harris which Prof. Squawkins reckons is a "must" and definitely required reading for all - and then "God the Evidence.  The Reconciliation of Faith and Reason in a Postsecular World" by Patrick Glynn.  I bought all four last week from the River People (or are we allowed to say Amazon on here? Old habits die hard).

No wonder I get headaches.  Wink
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