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Author Topic: This week, I have been mostly reading  (Read 11300 times)
Daniel
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« Reply #45 on: 23:38:55, 18-07-2007 »

Re the pianist in The Unconsoled - does he (or the music he plays) seem to be based on anyone/anything familiar?

It's about six years since I read it, but no resemblances occurred to me, but I might not be the best person to know. But honestly, I don't really think that is the point of the book at all, as may become apparent once you start to read it.

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« Reply #46 on: 23:46:57, 18-07-2007 »

the worst novel about a musician I've ever read - McEwan's Amsterdam. Anyone else been as cringed and writhed as I by the depiction of composerly angst and torment contained therein?
Embarrassing rubbish, yes, as was Saturday I thought, though I liked his first few books and Atonement.
Re the pianist in The Unconsoled - does he (or the music he plays) seem to be based on anyone/anything familiar?
No. But that shouldn't stop you from reading it, should it? (I did like Never Let Me Go as well.)
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« Reply #47 on: 01:39:32, 19-07-2007 »


This particular week it's been Flann O'Brien's "The Third Policeman". I am sorry to say I can't now remember who it was that recommended it but, whoever you are, thank you very much. I've had a wonderful time with it. It's one of those books that once you've entered its world, it becomes a familiar landscape and part of your life.

ooh, that's a good book.  It really, really stuck with me more than a concise description of its conceit could possibly suggest.  Dalkey Archive is on my shelf awaiting its turn.

Right now for me I'm playing merry-go-round with Madame Bovary, Brian Rotman's The Semiotics of Zero (part of my ongoing interest in the development of and discourse surrounding artificial perspective in Italian painting) and Foucault's Death and the Labyrinth (on Raymond Roussel).
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« Reply #48 on: 02:07:52, 19-07-2007 »

Currently alternating b/t loving and loathing Brian Greene's The Fabric of the Cosmos.
IMO that book is a craven attempt to make a few more bucks off the back of his previous (rather interesting) book The Elegant Universe. Fabric doesn't really say much that a dozen other physicists haven't said more interestingly (Roger Penrose, Lee Smolin, David Deutsch, Martin Rees, to name but four) and I found it extremely disappointing.

Yes, that's about where I've come down, too, though there are still enough sufficiently interesting and enlightening moments that I haven't given up yet.  So far, I've certainly preferred The Elegant Universe.

(I figured you'd have an opinion on this one.   Wink )
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« Reply #49 on: 08:23:16, 19-07-2007 »

Maybe some of the more arcane gender-political-musicology stuff will have to wait until after the grave.

Do you remember the moment in CATCH-22 when Yossarian is in the hospital, and the officer in the bed opposite has decided to live forever?  His strategy for achieving this is to spend his time doing phenomenally futile and mind-numbingly boring things so that the time seems to last forever.  Gender-political-musicology books might be some of the very best material you could acquire for following this strategy  Wink

By strange coincidence I've just re-read The Third Policeman too (after a gap of 20+ years) with the idea of trying to find an opera libretto in it somehow.  It's much more feasible than I first thought, and with some carefully planned role-doubling in the smaller parts (Mathers/Fox, Finucane/Gilhaney etc) you can get it down to a cast of about 8-10.  Sergeant Pluck is a buffo bass-baritone in the direct tradition of the Police Sergeant from LADY MAC Smiley

O'Brien's/O'Nolan's/Myles' collected journalism from The Irish Times is well worth a read, and as they are short pieces they're perfect for "picking up & putting down" reading moments.  "The Catechism Of Cliche" series, "The Brother", "The Plain People Of Ireland", and "For Steam Men" are particularly smirk-inducing.

BTW are there any other enthusiasts for Dan Rhodes amongst us?  "Don't Tell Me The Truth About Love" (one hundred one-page pieces in which lovers share their inner secrets and anxieties) is marvellously cynical stuff.
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« Reply #50 on: 08:40:03, 19-07-2007 »

Brian Rotman's The Semiotics of Zero

Good Heavens! Brian Rotman, Distinguished Professor of Humanites, Ohio State University, turns out to be the very same Brian Rotman whose tutorial group I used to be in in the early 1970s when I was struggling to understand mathematical analysis, philosophy of mathematics and all that and he was struggling not to despair of us for not being as brainy as he was. He was the brilliant Young Turk (oh, God, is that orientalism of the worst sort?) of the Mathematics Department and scarcely out of short trousers himself and very, um, ahem, cough, "Sixties" in his habits at the time.


Same smile but considerably less hair Cheesy.

Oh well, The Semiotics of Zero had better go on the list too.
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« Reply #51 on: 09:10:24, 19-07-2007 »

Chronicles of the Canongate,by Walter Scott.

since I took early retirement  two years ago,Scott has been a major discovery for me(never read him before). I have had great satisfaction and enjoyment from his novels .
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« Reply #52 on: 09:41:50, 19-07-2007 »

I had the same sort of discovery when I retired smittims.. I have read almost all of Anthony Trollope and loved every minute. I think my favourite ... if I had to have one... would be 'Rachel Ray'. It is the humour and tongue in cheek descriptions that delight me. I am just about ready to 'start them all over again'!!

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« Reply #53 on: 09:44:29, 19-07-2007 »

At home -- finally got round to starting Frazer's The Golden Bough ... this one might take me a while to get through  Undecided
That's been on my 'to read' pile since 1995...

I'm in the same position with La Morte D'Arthur Smiley

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« Reply #54 on: 10:22:25, 19-07-2007 »

Apart from Robert Jordan's Wheel of Time (dumb fantasy, but one of the best ways I know to mentally decompress at the end of a day), I'm between novels at the moment. Instead, I'm reading Danielle Fosler-Lussier's Music Divided: Bartók's Legacy in Cold War Culture (sprinkled with the usual new-musicological scepticism towards European modernism, and I'm yet to be convinced that Cold War studies need to be so rigidly binary, but it will probably prove a significant book); and Neal Ascherson's Black Sea (absolutely brilliant - superbly written, and full of great stories, historical detail, and impressive conclusions; I wish more musicologists could write like historians...!). Oh, and a book of Dave Eggers' short stories - How we are hungry. Stylistically very flashy, and the stories are often very gripping as you are reading them - but almost all of them so far have left me thinking 'and what was the point?'
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« Reply #55 on: 10:26:01, 19-07-2007 »

Question to those who read on PDAs - how do you find this compares to reading a book?
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« Reply #56 on: 10:43:43, 19-07-2007 »

I'm re-reading Alasdair Maclean's Night Falls on Ardnamurchan - in which the Scottish poet weaves reflections on the decline of a crofting community around the terse diary of his father, the last full-time crofter in the area.  It's another one of those powerful books that worms its way into one's consciousness and demands to be re-read every few years.
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« Reply #57 on: 10:45:06, 19-07-2007 »

Instead, I'm reading Danielle Fosler-Lussier's Music Divided: Bartók's Legacy in Cold War Culture (sprinkled with the usual new-musicological scepticism towards European modernism, and I'm yet to be convinced that Cold War studies need to be so rigidly binary, but it will probably prove a significant book);

Hi Tim,

Could you tell a bit more about that book? I'm very interested. The relationship of the Cold War to European modernism is a very hot topic amongst musicologists at the moment, with many hoping to find parallels in music to the processes uncovered in terms of literature and the visual arts by Frances Stonor Saunders in her Who Paid the Piper? The CIA and the Cultural Cold War. Yet I've yet to read anything that has found any convincing evidence that this sort of ideology (musical abstraction = opposite of Eastern bloc style socialist realism = 'formalism' as denounced by Zhdanov = positive from Western Cold War propaganda point of view) really did have much effect upon music in the minds of composers, funders, those who ran insitutions, critics, etc. You've looked at these sort of things from an Eastern European point of view, I do so from a Western European one - I'm really interested in your thoughts on this (maybe in a separate thread)? Do other posters here know about the nature of Cold War studies of music and common New Musicological positions as regards European modernism?
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'These acts of keeping politics out of music, however, do not prevent musicology from being a political act . . .they assure that every apolitical act assumes a greater political immediacy' - Philip Bohlman, 'Musicology as a Political Act'
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« Reply #58 on: 11:02:56, 19-07-2007 »

Question to those who read on PDAs - how do you find this compares to reading a book?

I'm perhaps not the one to reply really as I listen to audio books. I find this method great as I can do other things whilst listening... washing up, gardening, walking down the road, on a train....
I would like to be able to use ebooks too but ipods don't do this... do they???

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« Reply #59 on: 11:20:51, 19-07-2007 »

It's a very new book Ian - only out last month - and is essentially DF-L's PhD thesis of 1999 in publication (which I've not read). As a bit of probably not irrelevant background, DF-L is a student of Taruskin, and Music Divided is part of the California Studies in 20C Music that Taruskin edits (it's funny, but I think almost all books in that series are former RT students, whose work then appears frequently cited in his own writing...).

It doesn't entirely throw off that background - there are sections on Bartók and serialism, and his reception at Darmstadt, that live down to expectations, for example. And Ligeti's own words are taken a little too uncritically for my liking in some places.

I've not yet finished, but the first half is in the main concerned with Bartók reception within Soviet Hungary, and is valuable in several respects - for the translations of a number of documents and speeches, as well as a reappraisal of composers of the period - in particular Ferenc Szabó. So while I wouldn't necessarily agree with the conclusions wholesale, I would suggest that there is a lot of useful and provocative stuff in here that makes it worth reading.

The question of West = abstraction, East = socrealism is obviously a fascinating one, but should probably be taken off this thread!
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