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Author Topic: Poetry and Literature Warhorses?  (Read 471 times)
Don Basilio
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« Reply #15 on: 09:10:16, 26-08-2008 »

Tennyson produced some of the most mouth-wateringly lovely lines to recite in English poetry.  "The moan of doves in immemorial elms".  And although he was the laureate of Imperial Britain, he was more concerned with doubt than certainty.
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« Reply #16 on: 09:54:46, 26-08-2008 »

'If' is the favourite poem of people who don't actually like poetry; the musical equivalent would be something like Bruch's Violin Concerto.
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« Reply #17 on: 11:19:10, 26-08-2008 »

All right, here is a hackneyed war-horse (Longman's definition of "hackneyed": "meaningless because used and repeated too often"):

  Aedh wishes for the Cloths of Heaven

  Had I the heavens' embroidered cloths,
     Enwrought with golden and silver light,
  The blue and the dim and the dark cloths
     Of night and light and the half light,
  I would spread the cloths under your feet:
     But I, being poor, have only my dreams;
  I have spread my dreams under your feet;
     Tread softly because you tread on my dreams.


If there are any Members who do not know the poet's name we leave to them the thrill of finding out!
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« Reply #18 on: 11:35:41, 26-08-2008 »

A headier mix from the same vintage as that idyllic lake isle, with its bee loud glade, is it not.
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« Reply #19 on: 16:46:17, 26-08-2008 »

Here in the States the warhorse a-la-mode is certainly "Casey at the Bat" -- which like Lincoln's Gettysburg Address is one of the few things that a big percentage of children memorize throughout the country.

You know it?
..There is no joy in Mudville etc.

I admit I get chills just thinking about it. Does that make me an American after all?
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« Reply #20 on: 17:27:28, 26-08-2008 »

Well, dang me, is 'Casey at the Bat' (1889) where Henry Newbolt nicked the idea for the opening of Vitai Lampada (1897), a poem which must have been born an old Warhorse?


Vitai Lampada

There's a breathless hush in the Close tonight -
Ten to make and the match to win -
A bumping pitch and a blinding light,
An hour to play and the last man in.
And it's not for the sake of the ribboned coat,
Or the selfish hope of a season's fame,
But his Captain's hand on his shoulder smote -
'Play up ! play up ! and play the game !'
 
The sand of the Desert is sodden red -
Red with the wreck of a square that broke; -
The Gatling's jammed and the Colonel's dead,
And the regiment's blind with dust and smoke.
The river of death has brimmed his banks,
And England's far, and Honour a name,
But the voice of a schoolboy rallies the ranks:
'Play up ! play up ! and play the game !'
 
This is the world that year by year,
While in her place the school is set,
Every one of her sons must hear,
And none that hears it dare forget.
This they all with joyful mind
Bear through life like a torch in flame,
And falling fling to the host behind -
'Play up ! play up ! and play the game !'
 
Sir Henry Newbolt
 


"Pilfering another boy's prep, Newbolt Minor? Very poor form. Report to me in Upper Hall to have your nipple twisted."
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« Reply #21 on: 18:27:14, 26-08-2008 »

I sense a Comparative Literature article in the works.
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« Reply #22 on: 18:55:28, 26-08-2008 »

Then we'd better throw Mr Henry Wadsworth Longfellow into the works too:


Listen, my children, and you shall hear
Of the midnight ride of Paul Revere,
On the eighteenth of April, in Seventy-Five:
Hardly a man is now alive
Who remembers that famous day and year.

He said to his friend, "If the British march
By land or sea from the town to-night,
Hang a lantern aloft in the belfry-arch
Of the North-Church-tower, as a signal-light,--
One if by land, and two if by sea;
And I on the opposite shore will be,
Ready to ride and spread the alarm
Through every Middlesex village and farm,
For the country-folk to be up and to arm."

Then he said "Good night!" and with muffled oar
Silently rowed to the Charlestown shore,
Just as the moon rose over the bay,
Where swinging wide at her moorings lay
The Somerset, British man-of-war:
A phantom ship, with each mast and spar
Across the moon, like a prison-bar,
And a huge black hulk, that was magnified
By its own reflection in the tide.

Meanwhile, his friend, through alley and street
Wanders and watches with eager ears,
Till in the silence around him he hears
The muster of men at the barrack door,
The sound of arms, and the tramp of feet,
And the measured tread of the grenadiers
Marching down to their boats on the shore.

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« Reply #23 on: 19:11:13, 26-08-2008 »

I don't like Longfellow, somehow. Is it just bad poetry?

How does one hear something 'in the silence' ? That's not much of a silence, is it?

And the Song of Hiawatha is tripe is not it?

Here, though, is HWL at his very worst:

"The Error Arrow and the Song"

I shot an arrow into the air,
It fell to earth, I knew not where;
For, so swiftly it flew, the sight
Could not follow it in its flight.

I breathed a song into the air,
It fell to earth, I knew not where;
For who has sight so keen and strong,
That it can follow the flight of song?

Long, long afterward, in an oak
I found the arrow, still unbroke;
And the song, from beginning to end,
I found again in the heart of a friend.
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« Reply #24 on: 19:20:45, 26-08-2008 »

Ugh.
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« Reply #25 on: 11:17:40, 28-08-2008 »

Heaven forbid I should fall into crude anti-Americanism, but did Longfellow ever write anything that wasn't utter drivel?  Hiawatha must have some sort of prize for the most easily parodiable poem ever written.

No here's a piece that fulfills the criteria of both DB (did it at school) and GG (when you come to look at it again it's not half bad)  Coleridges's Rime of the Ancient Mariner.  Even at the age of seven I felt you could hardly take a work seriously that includes the words Eftsoons his hand dropped he in its opening stanzas.  But it grows on me. 

And a thousand thousand slimy things
Lived on and so did I.


I'm not going to quote it here, as it is long, and the effect is cumulative.  Here is the description of the water snakes  (the turning point of the story.)

Within the shadow of the ship
I watched their rich attire:
Blue, glossy green, and velvet black,
They coiled and swam; and every track
Was a flash of golden fire.

O happy living things! no tongue
Their beauty might declare:
A spring of love gushed from my heart,
And I blessed them unaware.

The language is so simple and yet so weird.
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