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Mr. Sydney Grew,
You can blow your nose in any Russian restaurant and as loudly as you like and nobody would even notice. They would assume you have a cold and have to blow your nose.
In fact you would be considered a polite person with good manners.
It is difficult to understand each other and things can get misinterpreted. Even if you are from the same country misunderstandings happen.
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« Reply #16 on: 15:24:12, 29-08-2008 » |
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Just found this on Yahoo answers, which horrified me: Cloth Napkin Ettiquite?
Is it wrong to blow your nose with the cloth napkin they give you at those fancy restaurants? I say no if you turn your head away from the table so as not to get your germs on those you're eating with.
Some people...  Indeed! One should always use the napkin of the person on your immediate left and then pass it to the right. |
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« Reply #17 on: 15:25:57, 29-08-2008 » |
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Just found this on Yahoo answers, which horrified me: Cloth Napkin Ettiquite?
Is it wrong to blow your nose with the cloth napkin they give you at those fancy restaurants? I say no if you turn your head away from the table so as not to get your germs on those you're eating with.
Some people... Indeed! One should always use the napkin of the person on your immediate left and then pass it to the right. Or their sleeve.  |
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"Two wrongs don't make a right. But three rights do make a left." - Rohan Candappa
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« Reply #18 on: 15:32:44, 29-08-2008 » |
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I have never been or employed a servant, but I believe it was usual to address them by their family names. Bertie Wooster only finds out in the final book that Jeeves is called Reginald.
With women domestic servants, I understand from my reading of C19 literature, a parlour maid would be "Smith", but a housekeeper, or cook "Mrs Smith" irrespective of whether they were married.
I think it partly depends on where the servant comes in the hierarchy, and on the degree of intimacy with the master - Jeeves was a manservant, a sole retainer who was frequently in his master's company, hence the term of address was the same as that used at public schools and in the professions (i.e. by surname - lawyers still do it and address by surname was de rigueur in the Civil Service until relatively recently, I'm told). Conversely, addressing an under-gardener by their first name stressed their remoteness from the employer, in stark contrast to the chummy use of first names today. All of which suggests that for the English, cultural differences between classes are every bit as significant as those between nationalities; especially for the sort of Englishman for whom there are only the English and foreigners. |
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At every one of these [classical] concerts in England you will find rows of weary people who are there, not because they really like classical music, but because they think they ought to like it. (Shaw, Don Juan in Hell)
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« Reply #19 on: 15:38:11, 29-08-2008 » |
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It is very rude to show the soles of your feet in Thailand. I nearly tied myself in a knot trying to adopt the lotus position in a temple I visited, without showing anyone the soles of my feet.  |
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We pass this way but once. This is not a rehearsal!
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« Reply #20 on: 15:48:31, 29-08-2008 » |
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I believe with women servants the first name would be used for those at the bottom - the parlour maid would be Jane. But in larger houses, the family name on it own might be used. A lady's maid was a fairly important person, on a level with Jeeves, and might be addressed just as "Smith" or whatever.
Addressing women by the family names alone seems particularly rude to me, but I suppose it was putting her on a level with men. Come to think of it, lower servants would be called by their first names whatever their sex -the footman was James or whatever.
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To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under heaven.
A time to weep, and a time to laugh: a time to mourn, and a time to dance
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« Reply #21 on: 18:48:31, 29-08-2008 » |
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I get irritated by false politeness - being addressed as Sir by those who don't need to do so. I wonder how many other countries have this convention?
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« Reply #22 on: 19:14:48, 29-08-2008 » |
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I get irritated by false politeness - being addressed as Sir by those who don't need to do so. I wonder how many other countries have this convention?
Our local Somerfields (not known for the quality of produce but dirt cheap) have instructed their staff to refer to female customers as Madam. It rather throws me, the transaction completed, pin number entered, to receive a "Thank you Madam" Madam? I really don't like that, makes me feel like A Lady of The Night. . |
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Reality, sa molesworth 2, is so sordid it makes me shudder
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« Reply #23 on: 19:15:49, 29-08-2008 » |
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Madam? I really don't like that, makes me feel like A Lady of The Night.
And we couldn't have that could we, Gossamer? |
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« Reply #24 on: 19:24:25, 29-08-2008 » |
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Madam? I really don't like that, makes me feel like A Lady of The Night.
And we couldn't have that could we, Gossamer? Oh I knewThe Most Famous Boy of Abertawe would be quick off the mark! And no quotes about goatbeards of delight and tufts of wiry fire richard This is a family orientated board. Hooves and cucumbers are to be ignored, as are tombstones ditto as whereby to are the red berried chests and Sinbad grieving into his Guinness. Is there not a Prom on we can talk about ? |
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Reality, sa molesworth 2, is so sordid it makes me shudder
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« Reply #25 on: 19:28:06, 29-08-2008 » |
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I really wouldn't want my students to call me by anything other than my first name.
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'These acts of keeping politics out of music, however, do not prevent musicology from being a political act . . .they assure that every apolitical act assumes a greater political immediacy' - Philip Bohlman, 'Musicology as a Political Act'
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« Reply #26 on: 19:38:36, 29-08-2008 » |
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Is there not a Prom on we can talk about ? Why certainly Madamina (you can call me Professor if you like).  |
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« Reply #27 on: 20:01:17, 29-08-2008 » |
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Is there not a Prom on we can talk about ? Why certainly Madamina (you can call me Professor if you like). And richard, you can call me Elvira Mistress of the the sloe black, coal black, crow black and blue black rook Night the sea churning and the blind moles in their dark dingles grasping at earthworms in a great enjoyment. Oh, Professor, there's posh Do I have to wear my 9" heels, and a black sack dress? (He will get the Zappa reference. Not a lot of people will, nor if I post Punky's whips. Imagine, a whole generation missing out!) Should the Welsh be allowed abroad after 7.00 pm? I think the consensus is NO. [/quote] |
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« Reply #28 on: 20:17:30, 29-08-2008 » |
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Do I have to wear my 9" heels, and a black sack dress? And then a guy with a blue mohawk come in, in serious leather...
That will be me in case you're wondering. (I hate that album) |
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« Reply #29 on: 20:32:30, 29-08-2008 » |
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Do I have to wear my 9" heels, and a black sack dress? And then a guy with a blue mohawk come in, in serious leather...
That will be me in case you're wondering. (I hate that album) But richard, you got that album, cos you know it. I love that album! Going to put it no now! Just follow the blue lights! Welsh gurgle at richard dressed in serious leather, with chains. The Mammy Nuns? Were you ever a Catholic richard? There is nothing worse than a Welsh Catholic, praying Novenas for the Calvinists. It's a bit like praying that the English could learn to play Rugby but not believing in their prayers ................ Exit stage left. |
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