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« Reply #240 on: 20:32:18, 27-10-2008 » |
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So is the Sciarrino you're talking about the new 3 CD set on Kairos? Yes. How much is that btw? 3 full-price discs?? It's worth having - and I don't know of much other Sciarrino orchestral music on CD - but it seems very steep. Ollie, I meant that I don't know at what point between 9.00 and 12.15 my 35-minute segment will appear.
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« Reply #241 on: 20:33:13, 27-10-2008 » |
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Ollie, I meant that I don't know at what point between 9.00 and 12.15 my 35-minute segment will appear.
Ah, you youngsters and your thirst for precision...
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« Reply #242 on: 20:37:41, 27-10-2008 » |
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Currently creating a bullet-point outline of what I'm going to say to Mr McGregor in the studio tomorrow.
If you find any problems in exchanges with him, I will (from previous personal experience) be most surprised, so nothing to worry about there, I imagine (not that you were worrying about it, of course)...
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« Reply #243 on: 21:42:05, 27-10-2008 » |
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Ollie, I meant that I don't know at what point between 9.00 and 12.15 my 35-minute segment will appear.
Ah, you youngsters and your thirst for precision... Tinly, I can tell you from personal experience that with programmes like that (i.e. magazine-ish round-ups) they fuss with the order/editing/timing right up to the last minute. Don't be surprised if you find yourself severely curtailed (ouch!) or misrepresented. Territory. Comes with.
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« Reply #244 on: 22:01:56, 27-10-2008 » |
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So is the Sciarrino you're talking about the new 3 CD set on Kairos? Yes. How much is that btw? 3 full-price discs?? It's about twenty quid I seem to remember. I have a soft spot for Sciarrino to which I dare say this will give a "sexy time", consisting as it doe entirely of pieces I haven't heard before. The only other orchestral music of his I have on CD is the piano concerto Un' immagine di Arpocrate, which I think was also the first music of his I ever heard (it used to be an LP on Ricordi when you were probably called time_is_not_yet) and which I liked immediately and have liked ever since.
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« Reply #245 on: 12:52:55, 04-11-2008 » |
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Why do all my ‘breakthroughs’ feel the same? It’s as if I can never learn the few, basically rather simple rules of thumb that pertain to my ways of composing.
Anyway, this morning’s work has yet again revealed one or two blindingly obvious things about the piece I’ve been struggling with for a few weeks. All these pieces of related material. Which order do they come in? What are the salient levels of complexity that distinguish them such that the order they come in matters?
Solution: they need to co-exist from the outset – not necessarily literally, as in superimposition, but in a state of play between them, sometimes juxtaposed, sometimes integrated into a form of corporate identity. Sorry, that sounds naff, but to me it’s a simple (and, as I say, familiar) solution and makes me happy.
Anyone else recognise this kind of ‘Doh!’ moment?
(Perhaps it takes having a cold to create a breakthrough sometimes – you know, slightly weird and druggy-feeling mindset etc…)
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« Reply #246 on: 12:58:16, 04-11-2008 » |
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Yes that sounds terribly familiar, even from a performer's point of view. If I'm struggling with a piece, it's usually for exactly the same reasons I've struggled with a different piece, and it's always such a joyful relief to finally figure out how to get beyond the struggle, i.e. exactly the same way I got beyond the last one. But I never seem to be able to reduce the period of struggle...
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« Reply #247 on: 13:04:34, 04-11-2008 » |
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(Perhaps it takes having a cold to create a breakthrough sometimes – you know, slightly weird and druggy-feeling mindset etc…)
One can achieve the latter without actually having the cold, you know... Now I would have said that all the work of yours that I know has this "coexistence from the outset" quality to some degree or other, and that it's usually the changing balance between the materials rather than their succession which animates the structure. I think it's often easier to see such general things so to speak from the outside, isn't it?
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« Reply #248 on: 13:07:09, 04-11-2008 » |
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Now I would have said that all the work of yours that I know has this "coexistence from the outset" quality to some degree or other, and that it's usually the changing balance between the materials rather than their succession which animates the structure. I think it's often easier to see such general things so to speak from the outside, isn't it?
Richard, next time I start a piece will you come over and stand behind me for a couple of weeks repeating that, please?
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« Reply #249 on: 13:12:22, 04-11-2008 » |
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Yes that sounds terribly familiar, even from a performer's point of view. If I'm struggling with a piece, it's usually for exactly the same reasons I've struggled with a different piece, and it's always such a joyful relief to finally figure out how to get beyond the struggle, i.e. exactly the same way I got beyond the last one. But I never seem to be able to reduce the period of struggle...
God, I know that feeling, Strina. Except with me it's duvet covers.
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« Reply #250 on: 13:56:20, 04-11-2008 » |
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Yes that sounds terribly familiar, even from a performer's point of view. If I'm struggling with a piece, it's usually for exactly the same reasons I've struggled with a different piece, and it's always such a joyful relief to finally figure out how to get beyond the struggle, i.e. exactly the same way I got beyond the last one. But I never seem to be able to reduce the period of struggle...
God, I know that feeling, Strina. Except with me it's duvet covers. I too know the feeling, but with portraits. Every portrait goes through it's "alien" phase, at which point I become convinced that I'm entirely incapable of doing portraits, but the only way to get past it is exactly the same every time - stick at it - keep looking at it from different angles (turn it upside down, look at it in a mirror, take a photo of it) and eventually a human life form will emerge. Shortly after that, the appropriate human life form tends to follow.
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« Reply #251 on: 12:10:07, 05-11-2008 » |
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Thinking about this thread yesterday, it occured to me that (quite understandably for a 'music' MB like this one) it's so far been inhabited almost exclusively by composers, plus a few performers.
It's pretty clear that other members here are poets, writers of various stripes, designers, illustrators etc. etc. and I just wanted to say that I for one would be extremely happy to hear from any of them too about matters creative... (In fact, in 'real life' I've had some of the most interesting and illuminating discussions of this sort with non-musicians.)
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« Reply #252 on: 13:24:47, 05-11-2008 » |
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Currently trying to create an understanding in my head as to how people decide when two equations that look like w=zz*+z s+z* s+O(s+1) can be mapped on to one-another. And trying to figure out a higher-dimensional analogue. Have also been working on a computer-game of sorts. Progress sort of stalled; I'm half-way through a fortnight off off, allocating that time to figuring out what to do with regards to its audio content instead (in the process getting out of the way a couple of music-related projects). Progress stalled due to my projected narrative structures not being rich enough to really keep the 'play' afloat (or maybe vice versa; I'm not sure). The time-out will hopefully allow for some good-quality mulling-over.
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« Reply #253 on: 13:35:05, 05-11-2008 » |
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next time I start a piece will you come over and stand behind me for a couple of weeks repeating that, please?
I'm sure we could all do with someone standing behind us who has the advantage of not being up to their eyeballs in whatever it is (composition, portraiture, duvet covers). What that person would say to me is something like "you appear to be sitting there doing nothing and that's because you are - you might protest that you're just wondering whether it's a good idea to do what you're thinking of doing, but all you're actually doing is waiting until it's too late to think of anything else and it has to be a good idea, or to become one."
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« Reply #254 on: 14:00:14, 05-11-2008 » |
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"you appear to be sitting there doing nothing and that's because you are - you might protest that you're just wondering whether it's a good idea to do what you're thinking of doing, but all you're actually doing is waiting until it's too late to think of anything else and it has to be a good idea, or to become one."
I think you should give that process a name, richard. How about The Method? (it's certainly descriptive of my current methodology anyway...)
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