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Cheers Marty, something I didn’t know, what a mine of information you are Now
Let us hope something more than an anaemic pizza will grace your table tonight x
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Beethoven 02 is one of my favourites, although I didn't know the background in his personal life until now - thanks, Martle  The Norrington perf is one of those I feel "works" (and, err, many of the other Norrington Beethovens don't...) - I particularly like the hard timp-sticks which add a crisp incisive bite to the opening. But I'm still relishing the detail in the MacKerras RLPO set acquired recently (on advice from r3ok), and if I have to pick a performance for the walkman, I'll go with Sir Charlie |
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"I was, for several months, mutely in love with a coloratura soprano, who seemed to me to have wafted straight from Paradise to the stage of the Odessa Opera-House"
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« Reply #17 on: 18:56:21, 16-01-2008 » |
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Marty, my keyboard is bugla red, this is taking forever to post even one line, forgive me, I am one step behind everyone
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« Reply #18 on: 19:10:57, 16-01-2008 » |
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Sorry --- Beethoven 2 would be a good thing to give to students and ask them to "rewrite it to make it better" ? What schools are you teaching at?
(No, I know; that was only a joke)
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« Reply #19 on: 19:12:22, 16-01-2008 » |
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Can I crawl into a corner and die for spelling embarrassment wrong? Oh misery to have a ****ed up keyboard
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« Reply #20 on: 19:13:03, 16-01-2008 » |
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The city is a process which always veers away from the form envisaged and desired, ... whose revenge upon its architects and planners undoes every dream of mastery. It is [also] one of the sites where Dasein is assigned the impossible task of putting right what can never be put right. - Rob Lapsley
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« Reply #24 on: 19:26:28, 16-01-2008 » |
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Thank you martle. That's the first time I have noticed the resemblance.  |
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« Reply #25 on: 19:36:44, 16-01-2008 » |
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Oh well, Torchwood tonight, made un Wales, filmed in Ca diff, where Captain Jack, John Barrowman (love him, lives) and had his Civil Ceremony. You see, what with Dr. Who being filmed in Wales we is famous for more than sheeps being tethered to lamp posts in Mynyddislwyn, isn’t it Bach? Until then on with the Norrington!! No. 1 now |
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« Reply #26 on: 21:53:23, 16-01-2008 » |
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Beethoven's 2nd was the longest symphony ever written when it first appeared and it was declared to be the greatest ever by many. It would no doubt be played more often if it were not overshadowed (rightly or wrongly) by the later ones. In a similar way, there are one or two of Mozart's earlier symphonies (eg 25 in G minor and 29 in A) that are overshadowed by the later ones. I don't know the CPE Bach symphonies. All I know is that my music teacher at school said that CPE Bach "tried" to write symphonies. I wonder whether he had heard them!  |
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« Reply #27 on: 21:56:50, 16-01-2008 » |
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Oh well, Torchwood tonight, ... Good line for Richard in that, "Trust me, I'm an improviser". |
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« Reply #28 on: 22:38:48, 16-01-2008 » |
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I don't know the CPE Bach symphonies. All I know is that my music teacher at school said that CPE Bach "tried" to write symphonies. I wonder whether he had heard them! What a curious thing to say. But teachers say the most bizarre things. Sometimes we wish we could have taken them back. Certainly CPE Bach's symphonies are massively underrated, but only to the degree that they are unknown (which they're not really, so what is my point, exactly?). The one with the syncopated theme (D major, Wq. 183/1) is incredibly sophisticated in its humor and its unique 'take' on formal matters. I don't have time to elaborate on that, sorry, so here it is (courtesy of Leonhardt and the Orch o' the Age of Modernism Enlightenment) http://www.sendspace.com/file/66zw1u |
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« Reply #29 on: 23:04:52, 16-01-2008 » |
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How often do we hear Haydn Symphonies - apart from a very small number - live? Actually, thinking about it, what about some of the less obvious Mozart Symphonies too; Nos 25 and 29 have already been mentioned, but what about 31, 33, 34 and 36? Possibly something to do with non-chamber orchestras feeling it isn't their patch any more?
And I'm going to go for Szymanowski as under-represented in the concert hall.
But let's think logically - looking at symphony orchestras alone - how many are there in the UK? I can think of 14, doing - what? - 60 programmes of 90 minutes per year? 1260 hours of music. Allow 5% overlap - leaves about 1200 hrs of music. How would you fill those hours? And balance your books and maintain an audience?
Hmmm, thinking about it there's going to be much more overlap, isn't there - works done by two bands, others done by three or more; how many are unique to one orchestra in a season? I feel a research project coming on (not for me, I hasten to add...)
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