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Author Topic: Music Hall and Vaudeville  (Read 578 times)
John W
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« Reply #15 on: 22:00:01, 16-06-2008 »

Ian,

If your student needs to listen to music hall recordings then here are two sites for him/her to look at:

http://www.musichallcds.com/music_hall_cds_catalogue.htm

http://mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/musichallmasters/

there's CDs of Florrie Forde,  G.H.Elliott, George Robey, Marie Lloyd and duets like Flotsam and Jetsam and The Two Bobs.

A male impersonator to look for there is Ella Shields.

Another interesting character was Little Tich. I know I've read a short biography of Little Tich somewhere, a diminutive comedian with a long shoes or 'big boots' gimmick.


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« Reply #16 on: 00:10:38, 17-06-2008 »

Oh YES! Flotsam and Jetsam! I have a tape (somewhere) of what they did to Grieg's Peer Gynt!
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« Reply #17 on: 12:44:27, 17-06-2008 »

I used to have the sheet music from a cousin of my grandfather of a music hall song sung by Wilkie Bard called I want to sing in opera (I've got that kind of voice).  The words

Signor Caruso
Told me I ought to do

are sung unmistakably to the music of Vesti la giubbia from Pagliacci.  It may be mocking opera as entertainment for toffs, but it takes it for granted that the audience will pick up on the musical references.
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« Reply #18 on: 12:51:46, 17-06-2008 »

Thanks for all the info, one and all. Here's another song:



(Please excuse the erroneous alignment of text and music at one point - I don't have the Sibelius-ed version here so can't put it right without typing it all in again)
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'These acts of keeping politics out of music, however, do not prevent musicology from being a political act . . .they assure that every apolitical act assumes a greater political immediacy' - Philip Bohlman, 'Musicology as a Political Act'
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« Reply #19 on: 12:56:51, 17-06-2008 »

etc Refrain.

What was the refrain?  Sexual politics and militarism there.

Around WW1, Marie Lloyd sang a number with the punchline:

I didn't like you much before you joined the Army, John,
But I do like you cocky, now you've got your khaki on.

In fact there is a recording of her singing it.
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« Reply #20 on: 13:19:06, 17-06-2008 »

The refrain is the passage from 'When you're grown up laddie'.

Re that Marie Lloyd song, I found something interesting in a book:

The sexual image of the soldier is a persistent element in music-hall song. Winks, clandestine encounters in parks, the appeal of a uniform or military moustache, are invariably part of the sexual code. There is also an occasional element of sexual blackmail, especially during the 1914-18 war. This was most rife in recruitment posters. For example, a poster, now in the Imperial War Museum, portrays two women and a child staring from a window at a group of marching soldiers and carries the slogan: 'WOMEN OF BRITAIN SAY - GO!' The influence of the well known 'Lord Kitchener Wants You' poster, in which the direct visual confronation of Kitchener's face, as the personification of single-minded power, both accuses and demands a response. It is visual blackmail. Woman as temptress and accuser was clearly believed to have a pervasive influence upon would-be recruits. This was also the case much earlier, both before and during the Boer War. Music-hall songs appeared which suggested that failure to enlist denoted a loss of sexual identity, whilst to enlist was sexually enhacing. Marie Lloyd's single patriotic song epitomizes this:

      One I though yer meant to grow a Derby curl,
      But they cut it orf and shoved it on your chest.

      I do feel proud of you, I do honour bright,
      I'm going to give you an extra cuddle to-night,
      I didn't think much of you, till you joined the army, John,
      But I do like you, cocky, now you've got yer khaki on.

The association of non-enlistment with effeminacy, the promise of sexual favours and the appeal of a uniform are all implicit in the words, yet Marie Lloyd's biographer, Naomi Jacobs, insists that the popular appeal lay in the persona of the performer. Jacobs states that Marie Lloyd was supremely uninterested in strident patriotism, but used the song to create the character of a 'coster woman...a fine, buxom East End wench...'. It is possible that what the audience responded to was a fantasy of Marie Lloyd becoming temporarily available to them and the pleasure of this lay in the more suggestive words, rather than in the sentiment of patriotism. Clearly, the song as performance was heightened by the fact that during it, Marie Lloyd danced on stage with a man in uniform. Jacob's insistence upon character creation does not take into account the fact that the audience would also be very aware that this was Marie Lloyd, the music-hall star performing.

Nicholas Daly, Nationalism, Imperialism and Identity in Late Victorian Culture: Civil and Military Worlds, pp. 24-25.

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« Reply #21 on: 13:28:41, 17-06-2008 »

The most frightening example of that were two songs used in O What a Lovely War,  We don't want to lose you but we think you ought to go, For  your king and your country both need you so  and (outrageously camp to my mind)

On Sunday I walk out with a soldier,
On Monday I'm taken by a tar
On Tuesday I'm out
With a baby Boy Scout
And the Wednesday a huzzar.
On Thurday I gang out wi' a Scottie
On Friday the Captain of the crew
But on Saturday I'm willing
If you'll only take the shilling *
To Make a Man
Of any one of you!

Sung by Maggie Smith in the film.

* new recruits received the King's Shilling on enlistment.
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« Reply #22 on: 13:52:36, 17-06-2008 »

I also recommend Alberto Cavalcanti's 1944 film for Ealing Studios, "Champagne Charlie", available on DVD.
This covers the life of Victorian music hall singer, George Leybourne and his rivalry with the Great Vance.
 
                           'Cavalcanti's taste for the bizarre and the vigour of the
                            performances make it something more than a museum piece.'

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« Reply #23 on: 13:11:59, 18-06-2008 »

There is an attempt there to distance a Great Working Class Heroine from militarism.  The argument that the song was showcasing her availability is weakened by the fact that at the time of WW1, Lloyd was 44.

However "I do love you cocky" is not a recruiting song.  We may find it tasteless or shocking that soldiers going off to the carnage of the trenches are the subject of light entertainment, but the song is not encouraging them so much as making lightly mock of the way a girl finds a uniform a turn-on.  (A phenomenon not confined to female admirers of male good looks, I believe.)  And if it is indeed an older woman fancying a younger man butched up, then the joke is on her.
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