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« Reply #15 on: 01:31:49, 24-06-2007 »
Quote from: Swan_Knight on 01:22:55, 24-06-2007
  But why single out the working classes (who are hardly numerous enough these days to constitute a class, in any case)?

Even the cloth capped labour party used to speak of the workers "by hand and brain", that counts most people in.
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« Reply #16 on: 01:35:05, 24-06-2007 »

It's that propaganda again,It's that propaganda again,It's that propaganda again,It's that propaganda again,It's that propaganda again,It's that propaganda again,It's that propaganda again,It's that propaganda again,It's that propaganda again,It's that propaganda again, etc, etc ....
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« Reply #17 on: 09:10:40, 24-06-2007 »
Quote from: burning dog on 01:29:21, 24-06-2007


I was going to quote the Loach comments but Bryn beat me to it.



I did? You have checked the schedules, haven't you? Or perhaps I missed the Loach comments you allude to?
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« Reply #18 on: 09:26:01, 24-06-2007 »
'However, the Ken Loach comment is rather typical of this sort of dinosaur who hasn't moved on: '

I think that's the first time I've heard Ken Loach described in such terms,Simon.You almost make him out to be the sort of reactionary chap who thinks all modern music (e.g.Stravinsky )  is discordant noise and who won't  try to look at modern art. I can understand why such a person would excite your scorn,but is it true?
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« Reply #19 on: 12:40:31, 24-06-2007 »
I'm afraid that your meanderings have lost me here, smittims. I was referring to his politics. But I'm very tired, have too much work to do (which I'm putting off by readind these posts!). And I was a bit drunk last night so I've got a hangover. The shame of it.
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« Reply #20 on: 12:42:57, 24-06-2007 »
Quote from: Bryn on 09:10:40, 24-06-2007

I did? You have checked the schedules, haven't you? Or perhaps I missed the Loach comments you allude to?

Sorry, it was Ian Pace!

I was alluding to the comments in the Radio Times where he also says. "All it(Today) does is churn out establishement views, never asking the significant questions..."

When I read the initial post I thought of the Loach comments but then noted that someone had quoted from them later on.



. Despite what those of a conservative outlook think quite a few on the left (and centre) are also "riled up" by programmes like Today.
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« Reply #21 on: 12:45:42, 24-06-2007 »
Quote from: Swan_Knight on 01:22:55, 24-06-2007
Skinner is my MP.  Those who meet him - including many who previously idolised him as a hero of the Left - come away with the impression of a low rent wisecracking dullard.  It's a measure of his failiure to inspire his constituents that we're now getting [edit: silly party] candidates standing in local wards.

I don't say he's an intellectual, S-K. Just that he's honest in his views.  As for the unmentionable party's candidates, it's hardly fair to lay the blame at his door. Blame those - ie the government -who have allowed a state of affairs to come about in which such views can take root and prosper.
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« Reply #22 on: 12:59:41, 24-06-2007 »
Quote from: SimonSagt! on 12:45:42, 24-06-2007
Quote from: Swan_Knight on 01:22:55, 24-06-2007
Skinner is my MP.  Those who meet him - including many who previously idolised him as a hero of the Left - come away with the impression of a low rent wisecracking dullard.  It's a measure of his failiure to inspire his constituents that we're now getting [edit: silly party] candidates standing in local wards.

I don't say he's an intellectual, S-K. Just that he's honest in his views.  As for the unmentionable party's candidates, it's hardly fair to lay the blame at his door. Blame those - ie the government -who have allowed a state of affairs to come about in which such views can take root and prosper.
Well, if any claims are being made that Skinner's being the MP has led to people in Bolsover supporting the [edit: silly party], then how come Skinner gets re-elected? He's only there because the constituents vote him in.

Whatever one thinks of the politics of Benn (or Scargill), don't you think they are also 'honest in their views'? Much more so than Blair or Brown, I'd say.
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