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Author Topic: Meantime in Britain, the true scale of Arts Council cuts becomes clear...  (Read 2453 times)
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« Reply #30 on: 09:53:09, 03-01-2008 »

Just to be clear: spnm, bmic et al were told three years ago that ACE funding would CEASE (not just be cut) unless a larger entity could be formed through amalgamation. Again, I don't know about LMC; although that reply Richard got is almost certainly a form letter sent out to all the organanisations involved in the recent cuts (including outfits like City of London Sinfonia). There is an appeal process - but like everyone else, I'm very sceptical about its prospects.
All this cutting and slashing comes in the wake of the 2003 Gershon report* into Public Sector efficiency, by the way, as was explained at length when negotiations between ACE and TNO orgs first started. I don't know if you were involved in that at all, George? ACE (like all other government departments) were forced to pull in their horns, and what we're seeing here is only a very small part of that - albeit one dear to out hearts...

* Fancy a slog? Here you go...

 http://www.hm-treasury.gov.uk/spending_review/spend_sr04/associated_documents/spending_sr04_efficiency.cfm
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« Reply #31 on: 10:29:12, 03-01-2008 »

All this cutting and slashing comes in the wake of the 2003 Gershon report* into Public Sector efficiency, by the way, as was explained at length when negotiations between ACE and TNO orgs first started. I don't know if you were involved in that at all, George?

Not involved, no, except in the sense of being on the receiving end like everyone else Undecided  It was of course an 'independent' Cool report, not something done internally, commissioned by the then Chancellor who <cough> had no idea at all what it might come up with. 

I think it is fair to say though that (as is the fate of all these endless efficiency reports) 'Gershon' itself isn't quite the force now as it was when it was first published and has been overtaken by other similar reports. It happened to be the one in the air when the TNO proposal was being mooted. But that isn't to say that the 'efficiency' theme, variously interpreted according to political taste, isn't as strong as it was then, was in the beginning, is now, and ever shall be. I only say that to give people an excuse not to plough through all the soul-draining management-speak in it if they don't feel up to it. I've just been looking again at the DCMS references which are remarkably opaque about how the supposed efficiencies are to be achieved. To be fair though, the equivalent chapter in the Government response is even more opaque.
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« Reply #32 on: 10:37:27, 03-01-2008 »

I think it is fair to say though that (as is the fate of all these endless efficiency reports) 'Gershon' itself isn't quite the force now as it was when it was first published and has been overtaken by other similar reports. It happened to be the one in the air when the TNO proposal was being mooted. But that isn't to say that the 'efficiency' theme, variously interpreted according to political taste, isn't as strong as it was then, was in the beginning, is now, and ever shall be.
Which in itself seems like a remarkably inefficient way of valorising the concept of efficiency, doesn't it. Wink
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« Reply #33 on: 13:09:46, 03-01-2008 »

Is there something like a freedom of information act in the UK

There is indeed 'something like' Cool Smiley a freedom of information act here. I am a battle-scarred member of the bill team that drew it up and defended it against the forces of darkness in getting it, not exactly unscathed, onto the statute book <walking wounded emoticom>. A small thing but our own. ACE is indeed covered by the the Act.

Could you possibly enlighten on how to use/invoke the act, George?
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« Reply #34 on: 13:25:22, 03-01-2008 »

Could you possibly enlighten on how to use/invoke the act, George?

This invocation might be useful. Or it might not.

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« Reply #35 on: 13:29:15, 03-01-2008 »

Could you possibly enlighten on how to use/invoke the act, George?

This invocation might be useful. Or it might not.

You haven't been having union with your clenched fist again, have you Ollie?
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« Reply #36 on: 13:56:09, 03-01-2008 »

Clenched? Heaven forfend.

I like the 'au sauna' at the beginning. Obviously useful information.
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« Reply #37 on: 15:33:06, 03-01-2008 »

Could you possibly enlighten on how to use/invoke the act, George?

First, unclench and then...relax.

You don't strictly need to do anything to invoke it since all requests for information should be treated as falling under the terms of the Act. However, it never harms to add something along the lines "This is a formal request for information under the Freedom of Information Act 2000" or something like that.

Apart from anything else it helps concentrate minds, it probably means that the organisation concerned will send a copy to their 'FOI officer' or whatever they happen to call them, it gives a good solid starting point if you subsequently want to put in an appeal to the Information Commissioner about the decision and it also requires the organisation to give you a reason for their decision (in the specific terms of the Act) if they turn you down. This last, as well as helping to focus on grounds for appeal, often provides wry amusement if nothing else.

The other thing worth doing is making the request for information as specific and particular as possible. The more generalised the question, and the less it relates to clearly delineated information, the easier it is for them to answer it by giving generalised waffly policy answer.

I would also recommend intoning Ollie's admirable Invocation Chant.
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« Reply #38 on: 22:07:57, 18-01-2008 »

Ah, found this on lolscience, but might as well be under the lolBritishArtsCouncil heading



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« Reply #39 on: 01:05:35, 19-01-2008 »

You haven't been having union with your clenched fist again, have you Ollie?
Oi! Watch it! Double entendres are very childish but if its your round then mines a large one. Sad
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« Reply #40 on: 05:12:42, 22-01-2008 »

Meanwhile The Grauniad ("Telling Lies To Make Labour Electable") has finally realised if persuasion won't work, then cutting the legs from under the protestors with fake claims about poor artistic standards is the way to silence dissent from the the Nu Labour party line:

http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/theatre/2008/01/arts_council_cuts_are_long_ove.html

In this lexicon of weasel-terms, phrases like:

"For too long, funding has been given regardless of quality"

" security blanket for serial bedwetters"

"Your unwatchable nonsense"

give the lie to the invective in "Veronica Lee's" piece.

I wonder who would know more about theatre - "Veronica Lee" (a no-name, no-profile hack at the Guardian) or Nicholas Hytner, Director of the Royal National Theatre???

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« Reply #41 on: 16:00:18, 24-01-2008 »

Have just heard on the radio that James Purnell, the erstwhile Culture Secretary, has just been moved to Dept. of Work and Pensions following the resignation of Peter Hain. No word yet on who will replace Purnell, but it does strike me as rather typical that the minister responsible for Arts cuts can now pass the buck to a successor - and of course the McMaster report can now be ignored by the new minister...
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« Reply #42 on: 17:57:27, 24-01-2008 »

In fairness I think the Govt strained and squeezed and connived at every possible way in which Hain's neck might have been saved, so I don't think they wanted to see him go at all (even if it was clear from the outset that he should).  I didn't find Purnell credible as Culture Secretary - he certainly failed to fight his corner, and in fact he's now been rewarded for doing a marvellous job cutting funding to his own area of responsibility.   Purnell's remarks that Britain was about to create "the best art ever" were a fatuous perversion of what McMasters's report had actually said.
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« Reply #43 on: 21:37:31, 25-01-2008 »

Heard Graham Sheffield, late of Radio 3 as I recall, now Nick Kenyon at the Barbican on Any Questions
just now. Q about Olympics had GS, 'heavily involved' in Olympiad culture posse, eulogisong Purnell, and noticeably fudging closure of Bristol Old Vic through ac cuts-fairly high profile local current issue evidently. The paradox is when impoverished ideas networks-boxed ticking becoming 'excellence', whatever that is deemed to mean-stick together passing round the fig leaves. GS made some encouragingly astute points about the wider world, but this was not good.
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« Reply #44 on: 18:27:35, 29-01-2008 »

I'm pretty sure that BMIC's funding from the Arts Council has been confirmed as continuing. They're certainly not on any of the lists of those whose funding has been cut, as LMC and COMA are.
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