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Author Topic: Britain about to produce "greatest art yet created"  (Read 799 times)
thompson1780
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« Reply #30 on: 14:56:29, 10-01-2008 »

Anyway, what I'm really interested in is what (UK based) people on this forum have in the pipeline that James Purnell's spies found out about in order to give him the impression we're on teh brink of a renaissance.

What would a UK renaissance look like?  What elements of what's going on today contribute to it....?

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« Reply #31 on: 16:29:26, 10-01-2008 »

but I was actually looking for one of him swimming which I remember seeing somewhere once, on the cover of a colour supplement I think, to which a friend (of mine, not his) had added a speech bubble saying "SUCKERS!"
I wonder to what precisely your friend was referring thereby?

I think he was implying that said composer was knowingly conning his audience with pseudo-pious charlatanry, which heaven forfend of course.
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« Reply #32 on: 16:31:01, 10-01-2008 »

What would a UK renaissance look like?

Like this, of course.

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« Reply #33 on: 17:05:49, 10-01-2008 »

This is what the renaissance looked like before going thru the PR machine:

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« Reply #34 on: 18:08:56, 10-01-2008 »

That's today, isn't it? Anyone else wake up to a new creative dawn this morning?

Well, the bus driver looked a little odd this morning, for some reason.

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« Reply #35 on: 18:53:06, 10-01-2008 »

Isn't that Bryn?
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« Reply #36 on: 09:47:08, 11-01-2008 »

Ciar Byrne (whose gender I am not competent to guess) is another attacking the double-standards of this "Renaissance" in today's Indy:

http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/this_britain/article3328397.ece
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« Reply #37 on: 10:09:25, 11-01-2008 »

Cripes, the Indy is full of venom about this topic today, in fact...

Terence Blacker fuliminates against the "shambles" of arts policy in Britain here:
http://comment.independent.co.uk/commentators/terence_blacker/article3328342.ece

Meantime Thomas Sutcliffe points out that Purnell has purposely misrepresented McMaster with his remarks about "greatest art yet created" in this piece, also in today's Indy:
http://comment.independent.co.uk/commentators/thomas_sutcliffe/article3326619.ece  <-- link fixed to point at Sutcliffe article, ta to Ollie for mentioning it
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« Reply #38 on: 11:33:34, 11-01-2008 »

I was talking about this with someone who works in an arts group in Queensland, where they've also had a slash and burn of established companies in favour of highly visible public stuff. Different rhetoric but the same apparent (to me, anyway) end - making arts funding do its job for the government and dressing this up as they feel necessary.

Indeed in his words:

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I really am very curious now about the contact between Arts Queensland and the Arts
Council of England- certainly AQ have been very aware of papers commissioned by the Arts Council such as
Whose Art is it Anyway and consultants have been sent from QLD to the UK... I bumped into one such d*******
who stopped off in Berlin on his way back- this guy was trying to tell me art was no longer sustainable outside
of any association with commercial business.

I suspect we can look forward to lots more of the same.
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« Reply #39 on: 12:47:39, 11-01-2008 »

The Indy is surpassing itself on this topic today...   for within the last hour or so, their website has suddenly acquired a Blog piece titled "Death To The Arts Council" by Adrian Hamilton...

http://blogs.independent.co.uk/openhouse/2008/01/death-to-the-ar.html#more
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« Reply #40 on: 04:10:50, 12-01-2008 »

What is going on at the Independent?   Yesterday, as noted above, no less than three correspondents, plus a blogger too, put fingers to keyboard in the Indy to fire shots at the Arts Council.

Yet today, an anonymous Leader column in the Indy tells us that The Arts Council isn't so bad after allHuhHuh

http://comment.independent.co.uk/leading_articles/article3331318.ece

Has the newspaper been nobbled by the mandarins at ACE?  Or are they just going around in circles?

As a sometime contributor to this fine newspaper, I have to say I'm completely puzzled...
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« Reply #41 on: 12:54:52, 18-01-2008 »

Nicholas Hytner, director of the Royal National Theatre, has laid in to ACE, calling its latest announcements on funding "bollocks" and their likely outcome "a strategic catastrophe".

Peter Hewitt, from ACE, has responded in THE STAGE:

http://www.thestage.co.uk/news/newsstory.php/19575/hewitt-defends-ace-from-hytners-attack-on
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