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Morticia
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« Reply #15 on: 22:41:18, 14-04-2008 »
Quote from: John W on 21:27:14, 14-04-2008



I have a difficulty with that statement though tinners. Mark S and his girlfriend were alone together when she overdosed and fell into a hot bath. Call that a social life?

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It seems to be the case that Mark Speight took his life while in a state of utter despair over the death of his partner. We don't know the full story. We are not qualified to pass judgement. May they both now RIP.
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« Reply #16 on: 23:31:46, 14-04-2008 »
Oh Mort, Mort, Mort.... Quotation box trauma again? Wink
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« Reply #17 on: 08:10:46, 15-04-2008 »
Quote from: time_is_now on 21:07:15, 14-04-2008
there are plenty of users who don't experience these adverse effects, and who use drugs to enhance their social lives in exactly the same way that other people use alcohol.


If I may tinners, can I say a bit more about why I have a difficulty with that statement.

Alcohol is produced by breweries/distilleries/vineyards, it's a good source of tax for the governemnt. It unfortunatetl does wreck some lives, causes many fights and accidents.

Compare that with the hard drugs. Those people who "don't experience adverse effects" should remember hard drug productions ruins the economy/administration of at least three countries, is distributed by international criminals, and further distributed in Britain by gangs and dealers who deliberately wreck the lives of thousands of prostitutes and young people, using force that includes the use of guns which murder kids in the street and in their homes, and the drug users rob hundreds of homes and businesses and mug hundreds of people in the streets every year.


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« Reply #18 on: 08:14:15, 15-04-2008 »
Quote from: John W on 08:10:46, 15-04-2008
Compare that with the hard drugs. Those people who "don't experience adverse effects" should remember hard drug productions ruins the economy/administration of at least three countries, is distributed by international criminals, and further distributed in Britain by gangs and dealers who deliberately wreck the lives of thousands of prostitutes and young people, using force that includes the use of guns which murder kids in the street and in their homes, and the drug users rob hundreds of homes and businesses and mug hundreds of people in the streets every year.
If hard drugs were legalised, maybe even made available on demand to adults, then much of the above would disappear quite quickly, I believe. The conditions of production for hard drugs are one of the biggest worries for me, even as a non-drug user.
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« Reply #19 on: 08:23:12, 15-04-2008 »
Ian, legalising the hard drugs would not solve the prolems. The three countries producing the drugs would still use the gangs and dealers who would be fighting in our streets to sell the drugs cheaper than what our government's tax system would allow. Our underclass of drug users would still be in the same situation scraping out a dreadful lifestyle trying to afford them.
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« Reply #20 on: 08:51:39, 15-04-2008 »
Could I just support Mort's comments above and suggest we leave Mark Speight in peace and, if people want to talk about drugs/alcohol/tobacco more generally, these posts might perhaps be hived off to a separate thread?   
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« Reply #21 on: 08:54:51, 15-04-2008 »
I think the two of you should be put in a room for 24 hours to fight everything out!  Grin

PS.  My last word on this subject also - drugs do not enhance anyone's life socially or in any other way..permanently.  A quick rush and then it's all over with a craving for more.  Alcohol is as bad and so are cigarettes.  It's such a shame that people feed the need for these artificial crutches to have a good time - or what they think is a better time.  Diastrous to family life, health and society and more often than not with tragic results for all concerned, even if it doesn't mean actual death.

I'll let Ian have the last word as he always must and promise I won't respond to anything else he says, however IMHO, ridiculous.
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« Reply #22 on: 08:56:57, 15-04-2008 »
Quote from: George Garnett on 08:51:39, 15-04-2008
Could I just support Mort's comments above and suggest we leave Mark Speight in peace and, if people want to talk about drugs/alcohol/tobacco more generally this might perhaps be hived off to a separate thread?   

I agree George.  I'm sorry I started this thread really.  Having young children, I perhaps knew more about him than some on here and it was just that I was so shocked by it all - and it was in the news.....let's let it go now and let the poor souls RIP.  Sad
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« Reply #23 on: 12:51:43, 15-04-2008 »
Last word from me on this thread: Agreed, thank you Milly and George.
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