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Reiner Torheit
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« Reply #30 on: 21:55:19, 28-05-2008 »
Quote from: Bryn on 21:24:59, 28-05-2008
I am saddened that you appear to be allying yourself with such sentiments.

No, Bryn, I am not allying myself to Stone's remarks.  But the Chinese Communist response is disproportionate and purposely intended to stir-up vicious nationalist propoganda.  China is one of the world's leading human-rights abusers, and should never have been awarded the Olympic Games.

But you're right in one sense - there's not an issue on which I agree with the jackbooted thugs of the CPC.  I have many personal friends in China, and almost none of them have a single good word to say for the violent dictatorship which misrules their lives.
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« Reply #31 on: 22:03:16, 28-05-2008 »
Quote from: Milly Jones on 21:41:18, 28-05-2008
I don't think she meant it nastily or to be evil, I just think she hadn't thought it through.  Very unintelligent.  Let's face it, all she's done to herself personally is make herself look stupid.  Unfortunately also she's given the Chinese an opportunity to leap in and diss the Dalai Lama once again - not that they ever need any encouragement.

The poor Dalai Lama.  A man of peace, sitting there, minding his own business and people are stirring up all sorts of trouble and hatred in his name once again. 

She's a complete fool.

Milly, I don't know much about Brendan O’Neill, apart from the fact that he used to be a prominent activist in the neo-Trotskyist Revolutionary Communist Party and was heavily involved in the LM (Living Marxism) magazine (not exactly a pro-Maoist periodical). Neither do I know much about Dorje Shugden, but if the Dalai has banned his followers from continuing to engage in worship of this figure, it does throw a somewhat different light on him from the usual hagiographic picture we are presented with.

Any way, here is a link to an article by O'Neill I was sent a week or so ago, (how I ever got on the Spiked emailing list I am not really sure, but occasionally they do seem to dig up some out of the ordinary dirt).
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« Reply #32 on: 22:18:01, 28-05-2008 »
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but if the Dalai has banned his followers from continuing to engage in worship of this figure, it does throw a somewhat different light on him from the usual hagiographic picture we are presented with.

And I, in return, am sorry to see you allying yourself with a feeble CPC smear campaign Sad
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« Reply #33 on: 22:19:37, 28-05-2008 »
Karma, guys, karma...  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #34 on: 22:20:44, 28-05-2008 »
Quote from: Reiner Torheit on 20:59:46, 28-05-2008

Since no Chinese cinemas show foreign movies

At the risk of pedantry, but I'm sure you're a person who appreciates detail...
According to Screen International China annually allows some 26 foreign films for theatrical distribution(!)

And personally I'm convinced Hollywood is very happy that pirates are growing their business for them before they get unfettered access. It's Chinese selling them in Finchley that upsets them... Slowly slowly catchy dragon
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« Reply #35 on: 22:23:42, 28-05-2008 »
R_T, as you must surely know, the modern Olympic movement has a very chequered political history. The games have gone to such human rights abusers as the USSR, NAZI Germany and even the USA. I too have Chinese friends. Some support most of their government's policies, some offer critical support, and others are vehemently opposed to the rule of the Chinese Communist Party, but dare not voice such opposition too openly. I do wonder, however, whether the Dorje Shugden worshippers within the Dalai's 'flock' are not for him, what Falun Gong is for the Chinese Communist Party.

[Just found this. It's only part 1, but the continuation is easy enough to find. More Chinese Communist Party propaganda?]
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« Reply #36 on: 22:54:37, 28-05-2008 »
Quote from: ahh on 22:20:44, 28-05-2008
According to Screen International China annually allows some 26 foreign films for theatrical distribution(!)

As many as 26, even? Wink  Well, by the time the Comrades have picked 26 innocuous films (and let's remember that they'll pick films from Asia too - in fact, primarily so) and then got busy with the snipping-scissors to make the films "comprehensible" to the Chinese populace...   

Bryn, I do agree with you about the chequered political history of the Games.  The "torch" is an even more questionable addition, being the brainchild of the Nazi organisers of the 1936 Olympics (it had never existed before then).  In fact the Dalai is on record as saying that the Games should be supported,  and he's said so consistently.
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« Reply #37 on: 08:42:00, 30-05-2008 »
Actress Sharon Stone has been dropped by cosmetics firm Christian Dior from its Chinese adverts following remarks she made about the recent earthquake.

The firm's Chinese office also issued a statement attributed to Stone, in which she apologised for saying the disaster could have been the result of "karma".

In it, Stone said she was "deeply sorry" that her remarks, made in a TV interview last week, caused anguish.

The quake struck south-west China on 12 May, and has claimed 68,000 lives.

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