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Author Topic: The R3 Opera Quiz - After the Supper Interval  (Read 23591 times)
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« Reply #690 on: 13:56:18, 21-07-2008 »

I haven’t even seen the dancing hippos version[/i], having made a point of not wanting to ruin it for myself for ever.  I actually really like La Gioconda!

And Fantasia (which I saw big screen when I was eight, or so) also gives imperishable visual images to The Sorcerer's Apprentice (Mickey Mouse) Rite of Spring (lugubrious dinosaurs) and Beethoven 6 (twee Snow White style centaurs).

I wait with bated breath to see what Holland Park can pull out of the bag this Thursday.

Do let us know.
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« Reply #691 on: 19:33:33, 21-07-2008 »

I watched a DVD of the La Scala production of Rossini's William Tell very recently and I think the Pas de six there was very effective, giving some 'local colour'. I know the opera's pretty long as it is, but I wouldn't want the ballet cut, really.
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« Reply #692 on: 21:58:45, 21-07-2008 »

The Soldiers' Dance in William Tell is the one of the catchiest, perkiest pieces of music I know, and describes virtual rape.

I  would be sorry not to hear it.
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« Reply #693 on: 23:08:08, 22-07-2008 »

And the waltz and polonaise in Eugene Onegin are integral, not just because they are wonderful well known toons, but because they sketch the different mileux (waltz, provincial: polonaise, metropolitan sophisticated) that Tatiana moves in.

I don't know Tippet's Midsummer Marriage, but presumably....

Royal Hunt and Storm in Les Troyens.

Dance of the Blessed Spirits in Gluck's Orpheus and Euridice.
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« Reply #694 on: 23:11:18, 22-07-2008 »

And the waltz and polonaise in Eugene Onegin are integral, not just because they are wonderful well known toons, but because they sketch the different mileux (waltz, provincial: polonaise, metropolitan sophisticated) that Tatiana moves in.

I agree entirely, Don B. I had thought of Onegin, but wondered if it really counts as a ballet, despite it being dance. Who dances the waltz and polonaise? I assume members of the chorus rather than ballet dancers...perhaps Reiner or someone can offer enlightenment?
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« Reply #695 on: 23:16:28, 22-07-2008 »


Royal Hunt and Storm in Les Troyens.


And, not strictly a ballet, but a dance scene all the same: the pantomime in Act 1 of Les Troyens, in which we see Andromache mourning Hector - played out against one of Berlioz' most exquisite melodies.

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« Reply #696 on: 08:10:04, 23-07-2008 »

I had thought of Onegin, but wondered if it really counts as a ballet, despite it being dance. Who dances the waltz and polonaise? I assume members of the chorus rather than ballet dancers...perhaps Reiner or someone can offer enlightenment?

I'm talking out of turn here, because this is only my gut feeling on the matter...  but I am fairly certain that the country dance in Act II,  and Prince Gremin's Ball in Act IV would have been intended for a professional corps de ballet, primarily from the high expectation of dance standards which Russian audiences of the time would have held.  And indeed this is how they're still done at the Bol'shoi, the Mariinski (I presume - I've not seen their current ONEGIN), St P Opera, Stanislavsky-Danchenko Opera Theatre, Kiev Academic Opera etc. 

But dramatically it should be the chorus who dance, and at least at my beloved Helikon Opera in Moscow they do so - Helikon insist on dance skills when they recruit new choristers, and since they mainly recruit from GITIS (the equivalent of RADA) instead of the Conservatoires, they can mostly rely on this.  And they dance both scenes very well, too:



The dance ability of the Helikon Chorus is employed for a coup de theatre in FALSTAFF which earned them a heap of press plaudits (including a remark "the Bol'shoi production is a shambles by comparison" which caused a lot of trouble at the time).  The female chorus in the Oak Of Herne scene emerge in costumes clearly based on the "Willi"* scene in GISELLE, and do a complete choreographed ballet scene, "on point".  I can't think of another opera chorus who could do it, and the humour of the gag lies in the fact that they're faultless when they do it.  Nanetta (Tania Kuinji) isn't excused ballet-shoes either, and she has a starring role in the scene Smiley






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« Reply #697 on: 22:06:34, 24-07-2008 »

Ensecu's Oedipe has dance numbers that can't really be cut - there are two scenes of rejoicing with, in the best French manner, ballet and chorus to celebrate first the birth of Oedipus and then the defeat of the Sphinix (who when she realises Oedipus has discovered existentialism before Satre, gives up singing quatertones and fades away.)  These scenes, with rather endearing obviousness, are a dramatic foil to the scenes of anguish that follow.

The final act is extraordinarily serene - the Delectable Mountains come to Athens via Bucharest and Paris.
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« Reply #698 on: 09:56:37, 28-07-2008 »

Ensecu's Oedipe has dance numbers that can't really be cut.

Incidentally, the EMI recording of Oedipe, with José van Dam, is being released on their budget label very soon.

All this hot weather's making me thirsty so, for your next question, name drinks which are specifically mentioned in opera libretti!

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« Reply #699 on: 10:01:06, 28-07-2008 »

Marzemino (and various other types of vino) ... (Don Giovanni, Act 2)
Manzanilla ... (Carmen, Act 1 - oh, and The Gondoliers, Act 2)
Champagne ... (many occurrences, most notably Die Fledermaus, Acts 2 and 3 and very likely Act 1 as well!)

Just a few off the top off my head Smiley
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« Reply #700 on: 10:07:19, 28-07-2008 »

Show me the way to the next whiskey bar (if we can stretch a point and call "Mahagonny" an opera)
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« Reply #701 on: 10:20:46, 28-07-2008 »



Incidentally, the EMI recording of Oedipe, with José van Dam, is being released on their budget label very soon.


I found it for a fiver at Gramex, although I already had the most recent recording done by some enthusiastic American university with less than convincing French accents.
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« Reply #702 on: 10:26:49, 28-07-2008 »

Act 1 Finale of The Sorcerer

TEA-CUP BRINDISI, 1st Verse – SIR M.
   Eat, drink, and be gay,
      Banish all worry and sorrow,
   Laugh gaily today,
      Weep, if you’re sorry, tomorrow!
   Come, pass the cup around –
      I will go bail for the liquor;
   It’s strong, I’ll be bound,
      For it was brewed by the vicar!

CHORUS.   None so knowing as he
      At brewing a jorum of tea,
         Ha! ha!
   A pretty stiff jorum of tea.
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« Reply #703 on: 11:02:49, 28-07-2008 »

Surely there must be something by Meyer-beer?

"E lucevan le Stella"? Smiley
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« Reply #704 on: 11:04:10, 28-07-2008 »

Show me the way to the next whiskey bar (if we can stretch a point and call "Mahagonny" an opera)

Not forgetting, if we can include Die Dreigroschenoper, the Zuhälter Ballade with its charming:

"Und wenn ein Freier kam, kroch ich aus unserm Bett
Und drückte mich zu meinem Kirsch und war sehr nett"
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