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Author Topic: Midsummer Night's Dream, Opera North  (Read 524 times)
oliver sudden
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« Reply #15 on: 08:29:11, 14-06-2008 »

Was the ETO production with Britten's original orchestration, or one of their "scaled-down for touring purposes" versions?

It's been a while since I saw the score but I'm pretty sure Britten's original orchestration is already pretty small, maybe double winds and certainly very few strings although the option's there to do it with full strings, as he did in his recording.

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colS,S,M,A,CT/A,3T,2Bar,BBar,3B,acrobat speaking role; children's roles: 4Tr,chorus 2(=picc).1(=corA).2.1-2.0.Dtpt.1.0-perc(2):tgl/cyms/tamb/gong/2wdbl/ vib/glsp/xyl/tamburo/SD/TD/BD/timp/2bells-2harps-hpd(=cel)- strings (min 4.2.2.2.2)-Stage band:sopranino recorders/cyms/2wdbl

2 flutes, 1 oboe, 2 clarinets, 1 bassoon, 2 horns, 1 (D) trumpet, 1 trombone, 2 percussionists, 2 harps, harpsichord/celesta, 4 first violins, 2 second violins, 2 violas, 2 cellos, 2 basses in case that isn't clear from the hieroglyphics Wink
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« Reply #16 on: 08:42:18, 14-06-2008 »

And it's worth pausing a moment just to savour that line-up. It really is very neat: essentially a chamber orchestra, but with significant tweaks. Only single double-reeds, as opposed to double Fls and Cls, heavy on the percussion (but not 'heavy' percussion) and harps (2!), harpsichord (nice touch in the context), celesta. And most distinctive, equal numbers of strings, except for a couple of extra first violins. All in all, a meticulous choice by someone who knows exactly the sound world he wants to create.
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« Reply #17 on: 08:49:56, 14-06-2008 »

At Leeds Puck was a somewhat feline/canine Caliban-like creature which I didn't warm to.  Also the voice appeared to be amplified and perhaps distorted, which I again didn't much like--did that happen at The Lowry, Mary?


It was a different Puck at the Lowry, I think, but he presumably acted much the same. I hadn't thought of amplification, and I don't think he sounded distorted. At least I could tell what he said! Does anyone know if some sort of amplification is ever used in opera productions such as this? Parts of it did sound remarkably loud.
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« Reply #18 on: 09:20:13, 14-06-2008 »

The first performance was in the Jubilee Hall, which wouldn't have allowed anything like a full-sized orchestra (think of the previous Britten chamber operas with even smaller forces). On the first night the forces were actually one instrument fewer than the score demands: the second harpist had to withdraw at short notice, and Osian Ellis spent the whole night rearranging the two harp parts into a single virtuoso one. The forces were expanded upwards for the ROH production, and unless I'm much mistaken, it's the second version which appears on the Decca recording, which uses the LSO rather than the ECO.

As always, Britten's scoring is meticulously organised to leave space for the voices, but many counter-tenors just don't make a very large sound (as was evident last week in the Judith Weir piece I saw last week at His Majesty's, Aberdeen - a cosy, mid-sized house with good acoustics), an added problem being that Deller's voice had an unusual range for a counter-tenor, and it's just not comfortable for some of them, particularly at the lower, less carrying end of the voice, which the role exploits particularly.

The first time I'm aware of mics being used at the ROH was for Humphrey Searle's Hamlet (early 1970s), where The Ghost had one of the new-fangled radio mics (so no visible wires, which was magic, then) and was amplified with added reverberation. The two singers playing Astron in Tippett's The Ice Break (one them a counter-tenor) a few years later, were similarly boosted.
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« Reply #19 on: 10:00:50, 14-06-2008 »


It was a different Puck at the Lowry, I think, but he presumably acted much the same. I hadn't thought of amplification, and I don't think he sounded distorted. At least I could tell what he said! Does anyone know if some sort of amplification is ever used in opera productions such as this? Parts of it did sound remarkably loud.

Well his speaking voice seemed to come from somewhere top left at the Grand.  Then of course there were the singing bits where he misleads the lovers: but I assume they have ways of doing that.
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« Reply #20 on: 11:33:43, 14-06-2008 »

Woo Hooo!!! Then it turns out I SAW ERUANTO AS MUSTARDSEED at Glyndebourne. And if I may say so, Eru, you were one of the finest Mustardseeds of your generation. I'm terribly chuffed about this. Smiley

Ah, but the question remains, which one? I wasn't the one who ran on and sang (or shouted) "And I", and I didn't once scratch the donkey's head. I was one of the three who crept on and stood on the bower at the back, sang the "hail mortal"s and made fun of Bottom's ears. This is all because three of the four soloists were deemed 'too tall for the roles'. All a bit disappointing, we'd gone through the audition process for the solo positions, and then Hall just chooses small people on a whim! But still, we got the credit. Grin

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At GFO Puck was but seven-eight years old! That young enough for you?

That would be Jack Liman, Eru? He was tiny but absolutely brilliant and his personality filled the stage. Fearless too when being flown around the stage at terrifyingly high speed.

Indeed it would. I wonder where he is now.
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« Reply #21 on: 11:54:38, 14-06-2008 »

Well, Eru, he was in the West End Chitty Chitty Bang Bang in 2002....

http://www.reviewsgate.com/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=480
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« Reply #22 on: 11:17:23, 18-06-2008 »

I don't suppose anybody of this forum is planning to attend the Saturday matinee performance in Woking?  If so, I hope to see you there.

I hadn't noticed the existence of this thread until I was looking for somewhere to post a brief review of Romeo et Juliette, which I saw last night.  Rather than hijack the existing thread I'm off to start a new one Smiley
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