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« Reply #1950 on: 19:05:33, 24-12-2007 » |
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And it's got Christophe Rousset in it!   (Swoon!!!)
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The city is a process which always veers away from the form envisaged and desired, ... whose revenge upon its architects and planners undoes every dream of mastery. It is [also] one of the sites where Dasein is assigned the impossible task of putting right what can never be put right. - Rob Lapsley
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« Reply #1951 on: 20:18:52, 24-12-2007 » |
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My iPod on shuffle. Wer reitet so spät durch Nacht und Wind? Mornâou nâou Ich bin ein Weib und will ein Weiberschicksal! and now Honeysuckle Rose played by Oscar Peterson. Aptly enough... 
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« Reply #1952 on: 22:34:58, 24-12-2007 » |
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and now Honeysuckle Rose played by Oscar Peterson. Aptly enough...
I didn't understand that at first - just seen BobbyZ's thread. Sad news.  RIP.
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« Reply #1953 on: 23:37:09, 30-12-2007 » |
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I sometimes listen to Bach on a Sunday morning, but have chosen some for evening listening today; appropriately enough, the latest offering from JEG's series with cantatas for the Sunday after Christmas, recorded on New Year's Eve 2000 in New York. 
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« Reply #1954 on: 23:56:04, 30-12-2007 » |
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IGI, I have mixed feelings about the bits of the Gardiner cycle I've heard, but did listen to this on Christmas Day and Boxing Day:  Some very nice things there (musically and interpretatively), and on the whole JEG does the festive stuff quite well.
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« Reply #1955 on: 00:04:37, 31-12-2007 » |
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I know very little about Bach's cantatas and have no other performances to compare them with, but I am thoroughly enjoying the Gardiner series. After enjoying the first release enormously, I've happily collected the series - wonderful music and superb presentation from the cover art to JEG's notes. A joy. How was your journey through the Harnoncourt Christmas Oratorio? I succumbed in the HMV sale yesterday... 
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« Reply #1956 on: 00:14:00, 31-12-2007 » |
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IGI, opilec, What's the message with the CD art/covers? Some world/religion message or is the series sponsored by WHO or UN or 
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« Reply #1957 on: 00:21:45, 31-12-2007 » |
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All the cover photographs are from a series taken by Steve McCurry and show, I feel, some marvellous faces, young and old, displaying real warmth and humanity, possibly chosen to represent the universal nature of Bach's music, although no specific reason is given on the Monteverdi Choir's site: http://monteverdiproductions.co.uk/about_us/sdg.cfm Am rather enjoying BWV28 at the moment - the opening line translates as Praise God! The year now draws to a close, which for 2007, personally, I strongly concur!
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« Reply #1958 on: 00:25:33, 31-12-2007 » |
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Sometimes Gardiner is just too hard-driven, and I do have issues with the size of forces. The opening chorus of Cantata 127, for example, is ruined by having that many sopranos belt out the chorale: there's such beautiful instrumental scoring in that movement, but much of the time it just can't be heard. Kuijken's much more to my liking, and I need to check out Cantus Cölln's recordings too.
Harnoncourt: hm. Frustrating! There's something very odd about the timbre of Concentus Musicus that I've never quite taken to. I suppose it's good to have an ensemble in this repertoire that has such a characterful and recognisable sound, but there's also something very peculiar about it that's hard to pin down. Partly it's the acoustic that he and the engineers generally go for -- quite spacious -- but also the sound of the continuo group, and the general application of a quite intense vibrato and a rather sawing-sounding style of bowstroke. Does anyone else feel this way about Harnoncourt's work with CM?
As to that particular recording, there are some very good things about it, not least the swaggering account of "Grosser Herr", and the soloists are generally good. But quite how the infant Jesus is supposed to get to sleep in "Schlafe, mein Liebster" is beyond me, and I don't like Harnoncourt's insistence on pausing at every fermata in the chorales. And then there's the usual quite wilful pulling around of pulse -- most anoyingly in "Flösst, mein Heiland". I can almost hear him jabbing his finger at the performers throughout this performance. Sometimes it works, but not this time, at least for me.
Then again, I've never heard a recording of the Christmas Oratorio I've completely enjoyed, which probably just means I'm a fussy old git! Would like to hear the old Tölz Boys' Choir recording on DHM, which Nicholas Anderson had a high opinion of: does anyone know it?
PS Yes, I did cheat and eventually listen to the whole of the Harnoncourt Christmas Oratorio, though I did parts 1-3 one a day to start with!
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« Reply #1959 on: 00:45:53, 31-12-2007 » |
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Interesting report, opi. I've had to give it a late night spin...the first part, at least. Reading the text on the gold pages is not easy, or perhaps it's my eyes! 
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« Reply #1960 on: 00:49:06, 31-12-2007 » |
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Reading the text on the gold pages is not easy, or perhaps it's my eyes!
You're right, IGI, it's not easy, especially when the text size is so small! 
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« Reply #1961 on: 00:55:08, 31-12-2007 » |
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Harnoncourt: hm. Frustrating! There's something very odd about the timbre of Concentus Musicus that I've never quite taken to. I suppose it's good to have an ensemble in this repertoire that has such a characterful and recognisable sound, but there's also something very peculiar about it that's hard to pin down.
Looking through my shelves, I don't have that much of the Concentus Musicus, but what I do have - The Bach Matthew and John Passions and Haydn's Symphonies Nos.31, 59 & 73 - I've very much liked. The Haydn is a real favourite, in fact.
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« Reply #1962 on: 01:00:20, 31-12-2007 » |
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I agree about that Haydn, IGI (though I miss the wonderful slurred horn octaves that feature so gloriously in the Mackerras recording of 31 on Telarc). I also love Harnoncourt's London symphonies with the Concertgebouw Orchestra: really glorious playing throughout.
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« Reply #1963 on: 01:08:26, 31-12-2007 » |
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I also love Harnoncourt's London symphonies with the Concertgebouw Orchestra: really glorious playing throughout.
Agreed, as are his Mozart symphony recordings. I feel quite a debt of gratitude to Harnoncourt; it was his set of Beethoven symphonies which, after reading glowing reviews about them, opened up to my ears how different interpretations of music really could be. Until then, in my teens, I'd steadfastly refused to duplicate recordings of anything! I haven't always liked what he's done - some of it can seem provocative for the sake of being provocative - but he always makes you think ( mmm, sounds a bit like Geoffrey Boycott [Ed.]). The Dvorak series of recordings is beautifully detailed, as were the Brahms with the Berlin PO. On the other hand, my bank manager would like a little word with Nikolaus... Well, I liked the 1st Part of the Bach - good soloists, particularly Gerald Finley who has impressed me with much of what he's done on disc recently. Must put the rest aside until tomorrow, which already appears to be today!
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« Reply #1964 on: 21:11:24, 03-01-2008 » |
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Now spinning here (which is Köln by the way in case you haven't been keeping up): Samson François playing Ravel on EMI. You can see his left hand concerto on youtube but that didn't quite prepare me for the trip to A Very Dark Place and most of the way back that is the recording he made with Cluytens. I've never known Ravel pulled around like this to be so effective - I thought the only way to do it was just to do what he wrote and not interfere with it too much. On balance I do still think that's the best way to do it... but cripes!
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