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« Reply #3360 on: 01:31:57, 28-08-2008 » |
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Thanks for those, R. Maybe I should try to get a score: it can't be too expensive, can it? Boosey's?
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« Reply #3361 on: 01:38:09, 28-08-2008 » |
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Yep, t. Mine's a Boosey's miniature, bought in Edinburgh in 1972, and signed by the composer nine years later. (Two of his offspring, Jeremy and Roxanna, were in the children's choir of Evita during my time there, and I asked them to get him to autograph it.)
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« Reply #3362 on: 01:39:58, 28-08-2008 » |
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Mine's a Boosey's miniature Phew! good thing the Naughty Brothers are fast asleep. |
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« Reply #3363 on: 07:59:38, 28-08-2008 » |
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I spotted a BIS disc of Xenakis' Pléïades. I know no Xenakis, but having enjoyed a few of the Safri Duo's discs recently, could this be a good place to start? Your advice gratefully received!  It's a nice piece but not, I'd say, very typical. If you're looking for a place to start with Xenakis, knowing something of your preferences, I would suggest Jonchaies from this one:  I have had that on order for several months now. Seems to be out of stock everywhere. Not even available via Amazon Martetplace in the UK or USA. |
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« Reply #3364 on: 09:48:52, 28-08-2008 » |
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If you're looking for a place to start with Xenakis, knowing something of your preferences, I would suggest Jonchaies from this one: I listened to this late last night, richard, and I can see why you thought this would be suitable - thrilling writing for orchestra requiring, I would imagine, a fair degree of virtuosity. I need a few more listens to get the structure of the piece, but on first hearing it was a bit like a train/rollercoaster - lots of pulsating rhythms and winding up the tension, making you wonder where he's going next, only for it to die away before climbing the next peak; there even seems to be a squeal of brakes in an attempt to grind it to a halt at one point. I look forward to exploring more. In addition to the Xenakis, downloaded so far: Sibelius 2 – Segerstam Malipiero’s Sinfonia del marePickard’s The Flight of IcarusRubbra 5 Gerhard 4 Tippett 2 Panufnik’s Sinfonia di SfereSaariaho’s Graal Théâtre & Songs from The TempestDutilleux’s Timbres, espace, mouvementCyril Scott’s 3rd Symphony, The MusesNovak’s symphonic poem, PanFibich’s 2nd Symphony D’Indy’s Jour d'ete a la montagne |
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« Reply #3365 on: 10:00:49, 28-08-2008 » |
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The Pickard - which I've mentioned before - is a fabulous piece, too, GI: another piece of virtuoso orchestration.
I'd strongly advise that EMI Panufnik disc mentioned above for you, too: pretty sure that at least the two outer symphonies might be right up you street (lane?).
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« Reply #3366 on: 10:01:10, 28-08-2008 » |
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Mine's a Boosey's miniature Phew! good thing the Naughty Brothers are fast asleep. ...only to awake, refreshed!   |
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« Reply #3367 on: 12:27:28, 28-08-2008 » |
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« Reply #3368 on: 18:26:03, 28-08-2008 » |
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 More downloads to be investigated include Tansman's 4th Symphony, Alexander Tcherepnin's 3rd, plus his Piano Concertos Nos.1 & 3, and Cui's mini-opera based on Pushkin, A Feast in Time of Plague (one track = over 30 mins!) Back to the subjuect of Xenakis' Pléïades, they have two performances available for download - the Kroumata Percussion Ensemble on BIS and another from Red Fish Blue Fish(?!) on Mode. They seem to have a different running order for the four movements. Any suggestions for which performance may be preferable? |
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« Reply #3369 on: 18:43:11, 28-08-2008 » |
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I've got the Red Fish Blue Fish version, IGI. No idea if it's better than the other or not, but it sounds fine to me.
Pleiades may not be typical Xenakis, but it is typical of the sort of Xenakis I find easier to get on with: pared down, 'chamber' Xenakis.
You've probably noticed that there's a lot of Xenakis on emusic - well worth having a good poke around.
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« Reply #3370 on: 19:00:27, 28-08-2008 » |
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Not yet spinning, but an embarrassment of potential riches on the doormat when I got home this evening. In sort of alphabetical order:
Beethoven: Piano Concertos (and Choral Fantasia) - Anton Kuerti/Toronto SO/Andrew Davis
Cage: Sonatas and Interludes (plus improvisations) - Herbert Henck
Glass: Music in Twelve Parts - Philip Glass Ensemble, 2006
Janacek: The Excursions of Mr. Broucek - Belohlavek
Mossolov: Zavod (plus Beethoven: 6th, Stravinsky: Fireworks, De Sabata: Juventus & Glazunov: From the Middle Ages) - De Sabata
Schubert: Arpeggione Sonata & String Quintet - Nocolas Deletaille/Paul Badura-Skoda/Quatuor Rosamonde
Varese: Arcana (plus Bartok: Miraculous Mandarin & Hindemith: Nobilissima Visione) - Chicago Symphony/Martinon
Now, which so I spin first?
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« Reply #3371 on: 19:08:59, 28-08-2008 » |
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Piano music by Anatoly Alexandrov (1888-1982) played by Hamish Milne. Having a good time here. Similar territory to Scriabin and Medtner according to the CD but by no means too obviously so. Mostly from 1925 or before but a couple of things from the 1960s + 70s. Thanks to Sydney Grew for this tip-off. http://www.hyperion-records.co.uk/al.asp?al=CDA67328 |
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« Reply #3372 on: 19:10:59, 28-08-2008 » |
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Back to the subjuect of Xenakis' Pléïades, they have two performances available for download - the Kroumata Percussion Ensemble on BIS and another from Red Fish Blue Fish(?!) on Mode. They seem to have a different running order for the four movements. Any suggestions for which performance may be preferable?
I can't answer your question directly, having only the Percussions de Strasbourg Pleiades on HM, but red fish blue fish is a very impressive rotating-membership group based at the University of California at San Diego under the direction of Steve Schick, who is one of America's greatest percussionists. The performances on Mode's Xenakis series are uniformly extremely high, so that combined with rfbf's reputation suggests that it'd be a good choice. Not that Kroumata wouldn't. Not that that's at all helpful. If you like Jonchaies the rest of the Timpani Xenakis series (up to 5 volumes now, though I've not heard the fifth) is well worth your time. |
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« Reply #3373 on: 19:20:45, 28-08-2008 » |
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Thanks trj and Evan. The difference which seems most obvious on listening to the brief clips online (and from iTunes) would appear to be that the Mode performance is recorded much closer than the BIS. I've spun Jonchaies a couple of times today now, as well as the three other pieces on the disc: Shaar, Lichens and Antikhthon. I can only marvel at how well drilled an orchestra has to be to play these pieces, which seem so virtuosic. There's a recording by the Leicestershire Schools Symphony Orchestra from 1982 on Youtube. I can only imagine what the score must look like. |
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« Reply #3374 on: 20:06:43, 28-08-2008 » |
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Percussions de Strasbourg get my vote, though admittedly you don't have that choice.
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