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« Reply #3690 on: 14:56:42, 25-09-2008 » |
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The Violin Concerto is Walton's best piece by a million miles. Can't work out why no one else ever seems to have noticed this!
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« Reply #3691 on: 14:59:57, 25-09-2008 » |
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So is the Viola concerto as well. Much neglected part of Walton's ouevre.
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« Reply #3692 on: 15:03:01, 25-09-2008 » |
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Well, they can't both be his best piece by a million miles ...
Actually, I don't think the Viola Concerto is neglected at all. Everyone talks about Walton's viola concerto. I actually don't think it's all that good, but the violin concerto is something else!
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« Reply #3693 on: 15:04:47, 25-09-2008 » |
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I still rather like the Viola Concerto though tinners!!  |
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« Reply #3694 on: 16:27:05, 25-09-2008 » |
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Well, I like the violin concerto best, so ner ner ner. Besides, tinners is always right.  (Actually, I guess the 1st symphony would be a hot ticket for others around here...) |
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« Reply #3695 on: 16:29:51, 25-09-2008 » |
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I meant to say, I rather like the Violin Concerto to!! Symphony no.1 always overides anything else by Walton. Imagine the violin concerto, Crown Imperial and Symphony no.1 on one programme!!
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« Reply #3696 on: 16:40:49, 25-09-2008 » |
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I'd rather have two programmes:
(1) Coronation Te Deum - Violin Concerto - Belshazzar's Feast
(2) Symphony No. 2 - Viola Concerto - Symphony No. 1
(And let's not forget that there's a not inconsiderable Cello Concerto, too, so perhaps:
(3) Partita - Cello concerto - Suites from Richard III and Henry V )
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« Reply #3697 on: 17:22:50, 25-09-2008 » |
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Right then - where can I get the tickets, Ron?
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« Reply #3698 on: 17:42:14, 25-09-2008 » |
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Were I to win tomorrow's Euro Lottery, in about eighteen months' time, Stuart.... There'd be a massive amount of commissioning going on, too, I can tell you.  (And I've already got my first list of favourite works to be recorded....) |
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« Reply #3699 on: 18:51:04, 25-09-2008 » |
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Gosh, if I won the lottery there'd be a good few commissions and CD recordings going on ... I'd better buy a ticket, hadn't I! (Actually, I guess the 1st symphony would be a hot ticket for others around here...)
Yep, that's the one I was assuming most people would come up with. I still think the VC's miles better. |
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« Reply #3700 on: 21:16:59, 25-09-2008 » |
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I think the problem with Walton VC is the stamina the soloist needs -you're in the Dutilleux etseq ballpark.
As a sometime brass player,I found Walton 1 knackering but its sobrilliantly written you just crackon with it. It needs a Boulez approach rather than a lumpy one -ahead ofitstime.
When the dongle ordains I would like to LA Guto Puw's OboeConcerto and Piers Hellawaell's Agricolas fromlast Sats H and N.PH-Clarinet concertante-is a corker imho.
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« Reply #3701 on: 09:05:02, 26-09-2008 » |
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It needs a Boulez approach Literally?!  I always thought Charles Mackerras was fine, but Pierre would be a thought ... |
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« Reply #3702 on: 09:21:21, 26-09-2008 » |
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It needs a Boulez approach I've got a whole list of things I would pay large sums of money to hear Boulez conduct, none of which will ever happen (and not only because I don't have the large sums). Tippett: Vision of St Augustine A match made in heaven I reckon but it's not going to happen, is it  RVW: Symphony No 4 " Shostakovich: Symphony No 4 " But a chap can fantasize ... |
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« Reply #3703 on: 09:36:17, 26-09-2008 » |
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Walton is completely unknown territory for me apart from Façade which I am happy to say I haven't heard since 1988 (in Rome, with Mrs W reciting as it happens).
Recent notable spins have been:
Mahler 9 conducted by Karel Ančerl. Fascinated by the principal horn and clarinet of the Czech Philharmonic playing their solos with so much vibrato. It's a performance that anyone interested in this work must hear, I know that's been said here before but I'm trying to round up the stragglers. It makes most other performances sound exaggeratedly sentimental, even though expressivity is never sacrificed. The end of the piece is the polar opposite of Maderna, who spins it out into nothingness to the point where you're not sure you're still hearing it - Ančerl's approach to this passage makes it sound naked and completely lacking in consolation.
Various of Gielen's Mahler cycle: the 7th several times (marvellous), 5th (reignited my interest in this work, which I have never been inclined to spend that much time with) and 4th (somewhat spoiled for me by Christine Whittlesey's shrillness).
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« Reply #3704 on: 09:41:47, 26-09-2008 » |
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It needs a Boulez approach I've got a whole list of things I would pay large sums of money to hear Boulez conduct, none of which will ever happen (and not only because I don't have the large sums). Tippett: Vision of St Augustine A match made in heaven I reckon but it's not going to happen, is it RVW: Symphony No 4 " Shostakovich: Symphony No 4 " But a chap can fantasize ... Indeed he can but, as you say, none of these is ever going to occur. I'd be interested, nevertheless, in what Boulez might actually think of these works, although despite the closeness to Mahler that Shostakovich displays more overtly in his Fourth Symphony than anywhere else in his output, I still just don't see him as being temperamentally other than at odds with the work. As to VW4, well, once again, notwithstanding its searing passion, turbulence and all that, PB would sstill probably find the piece just too English for his tastes... |
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