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« Reply #3810 on: 22:40:54, 07-10-2008 » |
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« Reply #3811 on: 22:48:45, 07-10-2008 » |
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... (although I do think you're slightly courting confusion as to what Bettina von Arnin was doing writing to Goethe in 1810 ...).
Good point, well made. The parentheses around that citation are mine, actually. The source I took my signature from used only commas either side. I felt that made for greater confusion. FK |
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« Reply #3812 on: 22:57:45, 07-10-2008 » |
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Good point, well made. The parentheses around that citation are mine, actually. The source I took my signature from used only commas either side. I felt that made for greater confusion. Quite: that would be completely ambiguous! This might be even clearer though:
Ludwig van Beethoven in a letter to Goethe, 1810 (quoted by Bettina von Arnin)I take it we're sure it was Beethoven writing the letter, are we, and not Bettina writing to Goethe about what Beethoven had said to her? The more I think about it the odder it seems that she should have been reading Goethe's letters, but it's not really my period and a quick google takes me - not entirely surprisingly - to an entry by your good self on another forum! Isn't she Bettina von Arnim, btw?  |
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« Reply #3813 on: 23:04:36, 07-10-2008 » |
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Quite: that would be completely ambiguous! This might be even clearer though:
Ludwig van Beethoven in a letter to Goethe, 1810 (quoted by Bettina von Arnin)I take it we're sure it was Beethoven writing the letter, are we, and not Bettina writing to Goethe about what Beethoven had said to her? The more I think about it the odder it seems that she should have been reading Goethe's letters, but it's not really my period and a quick google takes me - not entirely surprisingly - to an entry by your good self on another forum! Isn't she Bettina von Arnim, btw? What you've exposed here is the danger of Googling for a half-decent, thought-provoking quote from Herr Beethoven, bastardising the first one that catches the eye, failing to check its accuracy or authenticity, and not even bothering to ascertain the correct identities of all those cited. Do you work in law, by any chance? I shall amend my signature here and elsewhere. But first, Earl Grey tea.  FK |
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« Reply #3814 on: 00:24:48, 08-10-2008 » |
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Take no notice Kuhlau. There's now't wrang with having your signature in bold type ... |
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« Reply #3815 on: 00:37:06, 08-10-2008 » |
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Take no notice Kuhlau. There's now't wrang with having your signature in bold type ... All that really matters is that I've now corrected the quote, thanks to this from MusicWeb. FK |
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« Reply #3816 on: 00:47:34, 08-10-2008 » |
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Temporary fault. Do not adjust your sets.
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« Reply #3818 on: 20:54:32, 08-10-2008 » |
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Busoni Piano Concerto - Donohoe, BBC SO, Elder
Not one that gets spun very often, and I have slightly mixed feelings about it - sometimes it seems to be more about note-spinning than substance, but at other times is very impressive indeed. Nevertheless, Busoni is one of those composers I feel I ought to get to know better (and I have memories of being impressed by Doktor Faustus when I saw it at the ENO in the 1980s, although the music - apart from the final chorale - doesn't really stick in the memory).
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At every one of these [classical] concerts in England you will find rows of weary people who are there, not because they really like classical music, but because they think they ought to like it. (Shaw, Don Juan in Hell)
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« Reply #3819 on: 20:57:07, 08-10-2008 » |
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Howard Skempton Upon my lap my sovreign sits and others. Different from what I was expecting. I think I am going to enjoy it.
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A time to weep, and a time to laugh: a time to mourn, and a time to dance
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« Reply #3820 on: 19:34:30, 09-10-2008 » |
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Not now, nor spun. But I caught the second act of Rimsky's opera 'The Legend of Invisible City of Kitezh' on R3 this afternoon. I've often read IGI banging on about Rimsky's operas and thought 'yes, I bet they're better than I have been trained to believe', or some such. This was utterly fabulous - rich, highly dramatic and dramatically sustained, hugely inventive, stupendously orchestrated. Rave.
I think the last two acts are on tomorrow afternoon. IGI (or anyone) is there a recording to be recommended?
(It was a Sicilian performance, with an all-Italian cast from the sound of it - very impressive.)
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« Reply #3821 on: 20:04:39, 09-10-2008 » |
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I think the last two acts are on tomorrow afternoon. IGI (or anyone) is there a recording to be recommended?
This is what's needed at Martle Towers:  I missed the Afternoon on 3, unsurprisingly, but will try to catch it on Listen Again. I saw Gergiev lead a concert performance at the Barbican with his Mariinsky forces a couple of years ago and it is a stunning piece, certainly showing the influence of Wagner in a Parsifalesque way. I'm delighted you enjoyed it, martle. |
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« Reply #3822 on: 21:41:04, 09-10-2008 » |
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Ta muchly, Iggers! It's now in the virtual shopping basket.
Blimey, I've been bowled over by operas by Tchaik and Rachers too, thanks to you and Antheil.
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« Reply #3823 on: 12:54:34, 10-10-2008 » |
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NS:  Ordered this blind based on the recommendations upthread (where it was disguised as Ockeghem's Requiem). Quite a revelation. I don't know much pre-Josquin music beyond wot I did in University (which did cover Machaut of course), but I've never any of it sound like this. |
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« Reply #3824 on: 13:12:43, 10-10-2008 » |
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NS: Ordered this blind based on the recommendations upthread (where it was disguised as Ockeghem's Requiem). Quite a revelation. I don't know much pre-Josquin music beyond wot I did in University (which did cover Machaut of course), but I've never any of it sound like this. ...trj..., I'm shocked that PhW never introduced you to the delights of Ensemble Organum  , but glad to know that you're now discovering them. You must try some of their chant recordings too: chant like you've never heard it before! NS here:  which is pretty amazing, not least the Walstein and Appassionata. Seems like I'll be getting more of this series, which I know others here have been enthusing about. |
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