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« Reply #3900 on: 10:00:25, 26-10-2008 » |
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Have you heard the version recorded by Charles Neidich and L'Archibudelli, Ollie? 
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Our chief weapon is surprise...surprise and fear...fear and surprise.... Our two weapons are fear and surprise...and ruthless efficiency
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« Reply #3901 on: 10:33:34, 26-10-2008 » |
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I haven't. Does it rock? I have their disc of Romantic mostly-quintets (Weber quintet, Reicha quintet, Hummel quartet) - it's simultaneously very rewarding and very infuriating. Neidich tongues the semiquaver runs near the end of the Weber which is very impressive but I find it hard to believe it's what Weber had in mind; he also substitutes for the climactic top A in the Weber slow movement a top C, which is again very impressive in itself but since the top C sounds so pinched it's no surprise Weber didn't actually write it. In general I very much admire what Neidich can do but if I were fortunate enough to be able to do it I would do very different things with it. (I hope that doesn't sound too stuck-up...)
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« Reply #3902 on: 11:14:46, 26-10-2008 » |
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Neidich's is my usual choice for the Quintet, Ollie. You can listen to clips from the US Amazon site, or can download SendSpace mp3s of the Quintet Larghetto here and the Quartet Rondo here. I have the Weber, Hummel, Reicha disc as well, but haven't spun it for a while. I also enjoy his disc with Robert Levin in Danzi and Mendelssohn sonatas plus the Weber Duo Concertant.
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« Reply #3903 on: 13:27:24, 26-10-2008 » |
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I was spinning Liszt's Faust Symphony this morning (Budapest Festival Orchestra conducted by Ivàn Fischer) which made a nice change from Gesualdo! Now I'm spinning Rzewski plays Rzewski. Currently on North American Ballads.
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'is this all we can do?' anonymous student of the University of Berkeley, California quoted in H. Draper, 'The new student revolt' (New York: Grove Press, 1965) http://www.myspace.com/itensemble
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« Reply #3904 on: 16:01:49, 26-10-2008 » |
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Neidich's is my usual choice for the Quintet, Ollie. You can listen to clips from the US Amazon site, or can download SendSpace mp3s of the Quintet Larghetto here and the Quartet Rondo here. L'Archibudelli and Mozzafiato do a mean Schubert Octet as well. Highly recommended!!
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« Reply #3905 on: 16:13:26, 26-10-2008 » |
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L'Archibudelli and Mozzafiato do a mean Schubert Octet as well. Highly recommended!!
Another disc sitting on a shelf in a box round here somewhere!
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« Reply #3906 on: 16:39:54, 26-10-2008 » |
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L'Archibudelli and Mozzafiato do a mean Schubert Octet as well. Highly recommended!!
Another disc sitting on a shelf in a box round here somewhere! That is an excellent recording indeed.
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« Reply #3907 on: 16:43:23, 26-10-2008 » |
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At the moment I are be mostly listening to Gavin Bryars, Sub Rosa, on LA - there's not much of it, it lasts for about ten minutes, but I think its extremely beautiful. The music seems almost just beyond what is possible, as if it's not quite there. It is imbued (to me) with a feeling that all has been lost, a destination that has been arrived at via some inevitability, but that the sadness of it is consoling and relieving (which is nice). All 'certainties' seem gone, and there just remains a beautiful listlessness and exhaustion which allow you to rest because their presence means there is nothing left to hide from, everything has become transparent. Peas at last. (Excuse the mawkishness, it's the mawk in me.) I have a feeling this kind of sound world might in its contemporary setting might be deemed new music for people who don't like new music, perhaps a bit decadent even (Quartet for the End of Time the easy way), I don't know, but it seems slightly baroque, miracle-like, music to attend the canonisation of Satie perhaps, and I liked it very much indeed. I must admit that I found Jesus' Blood not quite but a bit close for comfort to being cloying. It's power and saving for me lay in the fact that the singer had no idea of the portal through which his message was being heard. I don't think I could stand it being sung 'expressively'. I haven't heard the Tom Waits version.
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« Reply #3908 on: 17:03:14, 26-10-2008 » |
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Neidich's is my usual choice for the Quintet, Ollie. You can listen to clips from the US Amazon site, or can download SendSpace mp3s of the Quintet Larghetto here and the Quartet Rondo here. L'Archibudelli and Mozzafiato do a mean Schubert Octet as well. Highly recommended!! I know I should not mention this, but someone has that currently posted at alt.binaries.sounds.lossless.classical, should you want to try before you buy.
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« Reply #3909 on: 19:43:01, 26-10-2008 » |
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Wagner, Siegfried Windgassen, Nilsson, Hotter, Stolze, Neidlinger, Böhme, Höffgen, Sutherland, Vienna Philharmonic, Georg Solti.
God. Siegfried's such a brainless moron. No wonder he destroys the world as everyone knew it.
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'is this all we can do?' anonymous student of the University of Berkeley, California quoted in H. Draper, 'The new student revolt' (New York: Grove Press, 1965) http://www.myspace.com/itensemble
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« Reply #3910 on: 22:27:07, 26-10-2008 » |
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NS Our Hunting Fathers with BB and PP
Too burnt out to enjoy it; will have to take it up again later. Any fans here?
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« Reply #3911 on: 22:29:52, 26-10-2008 » |
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NS Our Hunting Fathers with BB and PP
Too burnt out to enjoy it; will have to take it up again later. Any fans here?
I'm a massive fan of the piece, but I'd far rather hear Ian Bostridge sing it. Of course, it was originally written for a female singer. But that was before Britten was colonised by Pears. She got forgotten later, like all of them.
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The city is a process which always veers away from the form envisaged and desired, ... whose revenge upon its architects and planners undoes every dream of mastery. It is [also] one of the sites where Dasein is assigned the impossible task of putting right what can never be put right. - Rob Lapsley
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« Reply #3912 on: 22:34:02, 26-10-2008 » |
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Thus doth Messalina go Up and down the house a-crying For her monkey lies a-dying.
Death, thou art too cruel To bereave her of her jewel; Or to make a seizure of her only treasure. Hmmm... I don't have much to say beyond that. The alto sax is a fantastic instrument, though.
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« Reply #3913 on: 20:56:45, 27-10-2008 » |
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Hm.  The clarinet concerto therefrom. First movement: great. Lots of nice touches, the interplay between soloist and orchestra works really well, the playing is stunning (I would say enough so to make me wonder what I'm doing footling around on these old clarinets if not for the fact that it can't make me wonder that when I'm perfectly capable of wondering it for myself already). Third movement likewise. Second movement: just too darn slow, at least for me. Eight minutes long. Same as De Peyer but about a minute longer than Hoeprich on Glossa who's hardly fleet of foot himself. Just gets bogged down as far as I'm concerned. Damn shame. Still, most of it's great. And if you don't have a bee in your bonnet about it needing to flow you'll probably like the slow movement.
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« Reply #3914 on: 23:12:00, 27-10-2008 » |
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 Plenty of loveliness here. Fortunately interspersed with a couple of moments which give me the feeling of having a more tangible target for my own feeble efforts. (As opposed to the Elysian spendour Coppola and Hoeprich have a habit of coming up with.)  I really like the Burgmüller duo. Anyone here got a problem with that?
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