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« Reply #4995 on: 23:23:54, 01-03-2008 » |
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opi,
Just wanted to say how sorry I am that you've had the day you've had. I don't know what we need to do to get this country in order, but I feel sure that a few words from mum and the threat of an asbo is not enough.
Anyway, I hope your trip to the home of slivovice is fruitful (especially in the replenishing supplies department).
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« Reply #4996 on: 23:25:57, 01-03-2008 » |
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Having sat today in a local hostelry for 20 minutes, I was able to identify that the 'piped musak' consisted in at least four differing manifestations of essentially the same type of noise. The mechanical 'beat' in each item was continually interrupted by essentially the same kind of whining vocalization that expressed (I thought) aggression rather than passion (though in each case the clearly 'mock' US accent did little to fool the ears).
I was left wondering this: is it now to be the lot of 21st-century 'pop' music (like it was of that from the late-20th century) to continue relentlessly the tradition of creating noises that seek only to imitate the raucous noise of a rusty jigsaw being worked inside a popcorn factory?
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« Reply #4997 on: 23:58:26, 01-03-2008 » |
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Thanks to all for your very kind and supportive messages. Still feeling very exercised by - and insecure about - the whole business. Doubt I'll sleep much tonight.
Sadly the trip to Czecho (if the opera takes place) isn't until the autumn. A trip to Paris in the Spring though, if I can just keep my head clear and above water until then. Ollie's bottle looks very tempting!
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« Reply #4998 on: 00:31:49, 02-03-2008 » |
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Opilec,
I'm here and thinking about you. I lived on a council house estate myself in the 1970s and that sort of behaviour was unheard of then. In this case the parents should have to pay for the damage and the children concerned should have to apologize to your face and see at first-hand the trouble they've caused.
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« Reply #4999 on: 01:03:46, 02-03-2008 » |
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That's horrible, opilec. I am so sorry. I can only assume that the people who do this sort of thing have no idea at all how emotionally upsetting it is for those on the receiving end. If they did, I can't believe they would do it.
The only thing I have tried to do when anything remotely like this has happened to me is to tell myself that it wasn't 'me' that they had in their sights but, from their point of view, 'just some bloke': their real audience for their actions is each other, not me. I suspect it is true, and I offer it for what it is worth, but I'd be lying if I said that it helps that much when something like this actually happens and throws you off balance. Every best wish, opi.
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« Reply #5000 on: 01:38:37, 02-03-2008 » |
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Opi; sorry to hear about your experience. I live in a pretty quiet area, but that sort of stuff still happens. Having sat today in a local hostelry for 20 minutes, I was able to identify that the 'piped musak' consisted in at least four differing manifestations of essentially the same type of noise. The mechanical 'beat' in each item was continually interrupted by essentially the same kind of whining vocalization that expressed (I thought) aggression rather than passion (though in each case the clearly 'mock' US accent did little to fool the ears).
You're clearly not sensitive enough to the subtle differences between various works in the genre.
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« Reply #5001 on: 09:04:11, 02-03-2008 » |
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Milly says "This sort of thing happens no matter where you live and no matter what sort of property you live in. It's a sad fact of life these days I'm afraid. Gangs of feral kids roaming the streets and town centres."
Well, no. It doesn't happen everywhere.
I agree. I never see "gangs of feral kids" here, either. I'm sure they exist somewhere not far away, but I've never actually seen any. Hope that's not tempting fate. I did have that burglary last year - that may have been a young kid, I suppose, but luckily I didn't see him. More likely a druggy youth, I should think.
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« Reply #5002 on: 09:29:13, 02-03-2008 » |
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opiopiopi! you should have told me, and i would have whizzed you straight round to mein haus!
hope you're feeling a little less shaken. i know...try working on a vocal score or something...
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« Reply #5003 on: 09:34:26, 02-03-2008 » |
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opilec
Only just noticed this. All my sympathies.
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« Reply #5004 on: 09:39:52, 02-03-2008 » |
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opi,
That sounds like a very dispiriting experience: I hope that with the new day you're feeling better about it, but the aftershocks from such events can tend to ricochet across your emotions for a while, so remember to post here whenever you need more support.
As George says, they've really no concept of the distress they're causing, and it's not even usually intended personally: just the only way they know of getting kicks and showing off to each other; a sad indictment of society at large and the total lack of parenting skills, direction and responsibility which are becoming an ever growing facet of it.
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« Reply #5005 on: 10:11:19, 02-03-2008 » |
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Opi; sorry to hear about your experience. I live in a pretty quiet area, but that sort of stuff still happens. Having sat today in a local hostelry for 20 minutes, I was able to identify that the 'piped musak' consisted in at least four differing manifestations of essentially the same type of noise. The mechanical 'beat' in each item was continually interrupted by essentially the same kind of whining vocalization that expressed (I thought) aggression rather than passion (though in each case the clearly 'mock' US accent did little to fool the ears).
You're clearly not sensitive enough to the subtle differences between various works in the genre. You're probably quite correct - my being lacks the sensitivity required by the 'subtle' demands of this 'genre'. I think it's probably wise therefore for me to throw in the towel and stick to the monochromatic simplicity of Western High Art.
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« Reply #5006 on: 10:26:50, 02-03-2008 » |
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Having sat today in a local hostelry for 20 minutes, I was able to identify that the 'piped musak' consisted in at least four differing manifestations of essentially the same type of noise. The mechanical 'beat' in each item was continually interrupted by essentially the same kind of whining vocalization that expressed (I thought) aggression rather than passion (though in each case the clearly 'mock' US accent did little to fool the ears). You're clearly not sensitive enough to the subtle differences between various works in the genre. You're probably quite correct - my being lacks the sensitivity required by the 'subtle' demands of this 'genre'. I think it's probably wise therefore for me to throw in the towel and stick to the monochromatic simplicity of Western High Art. Consider super "markets" - not actually markets at all since people are discouraged from haggling therein - but they (in contradistinction to hostelries) are filled the whole long day with the recorded sound of women wailing, cleverly disguised as a sort of music. For this reason we ourself do not care to enter them, but we understand that in the ears of a good many people the sound is somehow a psychological encouragement not as might be thought to acquire worldly goods but on the contrary - in line with funeral rites in many parts of the world especially Asia - to part with - sacrifice - considerable quantities of money by showering it in sympathy upon those who suffer and grieve. On the more general point of Mr. Iron's experience, what he describes is just music for the unmusical - the waving about of a guitar is more a symbol than anything much else. We suppose it to have begun with Picasso and Braque, and been carried on by such as Shortacowitch. But it makes one think: what for those with no visual sense constitutes art? And what for the unliterary literature?
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« Reply #5007 on: 10:31:06, 02-03-2008 » |
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Just to add my dose of sympathy, opi. Nasty business.
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« Reply #5008 on: 10:31:58, 02-03-2008 » |
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what for the unliterary literature? Surely the so-called 'free' news-papers distributed throughout London and particularly on the Underground one suspects at least partly as a measure for the creation of employment since legions of poor downtrodden persons appear to be employed either in their forcible distribution - we are often required to change course on the pavement to avoid an almost violently proffered journal - or in their disposal from tube carriages.
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« Reply #5009 on: 10:43:21, 02-03-2008 » |
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Consider super "markets" - not actually markets at all since people are discouraged from haggling therein - but they (in contradistinction to hostelries) are filled the whole long day with the recorded sound of women wailing, cleverly disguised as a sort of music. For this reason we ourself do not care to enter them, but we understand that in the ears of a good many people the sound is somehow a psychological encouragement not as might be thought to acquire worldly goods but on the contrary - in line with funeral rites in many parts of the world especially Asia - to part with - sacrifice - considerable quantities of money by showering it in sympathy upon those who suffer and grieve.
Ah Mr Grew! We seem to have returned unexpectedly to the Criteria you explained to us at length some time ago. Supermarkets are clearly their modern descendants? Baz
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