Ron Dough
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« Reply #75 on: 02:46:47, 08-08-2007 » |
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Still struggling, though about to call it a night: looks as if the Mac side may now be sorted....fingers crossed.
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Ron Dough
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« Reply #76 on: 03:22:30, 08-08-2007 » |
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Yes, it looks as if it's now doing what it ought to have been doing about 30 hours ago. High time for bed.
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aaron cassidy
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« Reply #77 on: 03:33:47, 08-08-2007 » |
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Well as I said either somewhere above in this thread or maybe in a PM to Ollie, I was enormously embarrassed when Finale released 2006. I had been beta testing for them for awhile, and they released the software at least 6 mo. b/f it was actually ready. I've been a loyal Finale customer since '94, and it's really appalling to me that they keep putting out new versions every year w/o really doing sufficient testing. Even w/ the various updates, they never quite get to the point that the software is reliable. By the time they'd released 2006c, they were already well underway in the alpha testing of 2007.
Horrendous.
I think part of their business model is relying on the $$ from the annual upgrades. That's pure speculation, but I can't think of another reason they keep releasing software annually, rather than spending 2-3 yrs putting together a really good product.
To be fair, the big companies (Microsoft, obviously, but also some of the other biggies) have been beta testing on paying customers for a decade, too.
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martle
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« Reply #78 on: 08:52:50, 08-08-2007 » |
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Does no one actually test programs any more?
Well, I write software, and... Still on 3. 4 seemed pointless (except for dynamic parts which sounded downright scary) Decided not to upgrade to 5 as I'd have to run it on a computer less than nine years old. NB NB, that neatly summarises my thinking on the matter. Sib 3 seems fine, and I just can't recognise the few extra bells and whistles on 4 or 5 as being worthy of the term 'upgrade'.
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Ron Dough
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« Reply #79 on: 09:31:30, 08-08-2007 » |
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... that neatly summarises my thinking on the matter. Sib 3 seems fine, and I just can't recognise the few extra bells and whistles on 4 or 5 as being worthy of the term 'upgrade'.
If the software is being used primarily for producing legible scores, then I'd agree with you, martle. However, for those of us who know that the likelihood of hearing anything but our work for the smallest forces being performed live is minimal, then the extra 'bells and whistles' - in this case access to reliable libraries of excellent sample banks working direct from the scores - is rather more than a mere upgrade. 4 was a big improvement over 3 in this respect ( and produced a score for a charity's video which fooled virtually everyone) and as I finally and groggily fired up a current project in the early hours of the morning it became clear that once the patches and updates to a slew of ancilliary equipment had been performed (advice concerning which was nowhere to be found in the Sibelius 635 page documentation) it became very obvious that 5, once one can sort out the wrinkles, is light years further ahead. Sibelius is starting to find a fair amount of use in the entertainment industry as a notation-based sequencer: whether it's necessarily a good thing or no, 5 takes that side of its performance to an appreciably higher level than ever before... Probably not for you, martle, you're right.
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martle
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« Reply #80 on: 09:36:30, 08-08-2007 » |
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You're right, Ron - I don't use it much for those facilities. Good to hear 4 is more useful in that respect!
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oliver sudden
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« Reply #81 on: 09:56:18, 08-08-2007 » |
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the extra 'bells and whistles' - in this case access to reliable libraries of excellent sample banks working direct from the scores - is rather more than a mere upgrade. Are you planning to install the full Garnett Personal Orchestra?
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Ron Dough
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« Reply #82 on: 10:21:07, 08-08-2007 » |
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the extra 'bells and whistles' - in this case access to reliable libraries of excellent sample banks working direct from the scores - is rather more than a mere upgrade. Are you planning to install the full Garnett Personal Orchestra? Is that the one that goes from G to G, Oz? But Garritan Personal Orchestra is now running on the Mac with Sib Essential Sounds, and when I've managed to get the PC to do the same (bearing in mind that it can't even recognise Essentials right now), then I'll add in Garritan Jazz and Big Band too, plus having a go at the Sibelius Gold and Siver banks as well. It's the (theoretical?) ability to pick-and-mix from these various libraries simutaneously which really drives me on here...
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Ron Dough
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« Reply #83 on: 19:22:25, 08-08-2007 » |
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Latest is that I've had to strip out not only the whole Sibelius installation but everything else associated with it, all the sound libraries and much else besides, right down to their registry entries, which was pretty hairy. On the plus side, the PC is now running Sibelius and GPO quite nicely: on the minus side, it's now interfering with the programme I use for recording, so unless I can get that back in the next few minutes I'll have to rewire the FM Tuner across to the Mac for tonight's Prom. Grrrrrrrrrrrr.
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oliver sudden
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« Reply #84 on: 19:27:05, 08-08-2007 » |
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Cripes, Ron!
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aaron cassidy
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« Reply #85 on: 19:35:05, 08-08-2007 » |
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Cripes, Ron! Separated at birth?
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« Reply #86 on: 19:41:25, 08-08-2007 » |
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You beat me to that, Aaron! (Btw, the one Ollie posted is actually the original image extracted directly from Richard's dream memory bank.)
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The city is a process which always veers away from the form envisaged and desired, ... whose revenge upon its architects and planners undoes every dream of mastery. It is [also] one of the sites where Dasein is assigned the impossible task of putting right what can never be put right. - Rob Lapsley
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Ron Dough
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« Reply #87 on: 19:48:38, 08-08-2007 » |
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I've been extremely patient and never yelled once nor chucked anything, especially considering that it's been a glorious day here and the cameras were begging to be taken out. Not everything's sorted yet by a long chalk, but that's another story....
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oliver sudden
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« Reply #88 on: 20:19:40, 08-08-2007 » |
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I've dealt (after a fashion) with some annoyances today by wolfing down a packet of these: ...I commend them to all on R3OK.
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aaron cassidy
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« Reply #89 on: 20:20:29, 08-08-2007 » |
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...I commend them to all on R3OK.
Moldy peas? Is that some sort of Australian delicacy?
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