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Author Topic: Howard Ferguson 1908-1999  (Read 565 times)
eruanto
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« on: 00:40:57, 29-06-2007 »

In anticipation of his esteemed centenary next year. But why not get in early??

The composer of 19 opus-es who spent the last forty years of his life as a musicologist. These compositions demonstrate a very well-rounded output: a Concerto for Piano and Strings*, an Octet and two oratorios among them.

He gave up composition because he felt he had said all that he had to say compositionally. I think this was a waste - when some composers just go round and round in circles....OK, he wasn't a participant of the minimalist movement, but what an individual musical voice he had, all the same.

Any other thoughts?

*I'm learning this over the summer!
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« Reply #1 on: 12:11:43, 02-07-2007 »

Be interested to hear this, eruanto. Do you have a performance planned ?
Ferguson also wrote "Overture for an occasion" . . .
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« Reply #2 on: 13:37:52, 02-07-2007 »

Do you have a performance planned ?

Not as yet: it first has to fulfil its role as the piece for my "technical exam", which next year takes the form of a concerto trial (one movement only, with second piano). But if that's a success, then a complete performance will be in evidence.
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« Reply #3 on: 14:16:46, 02-07-2007 »

Ferguson also wrote "Overture for an occasion" . . .
Did he have any particular occasion in mind, autoharp?

Which other composers have retired, btw? It's an interestingly rare phenomenon. Gordon Crosse did, I think, although he may have been ill. Did Gordon Jacob, or have I confused him with Ferguson?
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« Reply #4 on: 15:09:59, 02-07-2007 »

Ferguson also wrote "Overture for an occasion" . . .
Did he have any particular occasion in mind, autoharp?


Probably different from that envisaged by Percy Grainger in the introductory "Foreplay" to Random Round.
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« Reply #5 on: 15:11:17, 02-07-2007 »


Which other composers have retired, btw? It's an interestingly rare phenomenon. Gordon Crosse did, I think, although he may have been ill. Did Gordon Jacob, or have I confused him with Ferguson?

Douglas Young ?
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« Reply #6 on: 15:31:16, 02-07-2007 »

Officially "retired" is perhaps not a term one would naturally even think of applying, even in principle, to composers but, of those who stopped well short of their demises, has anyone here ever heard of the composers Sibelius and Ives?...

Others like Ornstein, le Flem, Petrassi, Rodrigo and Sorabji all stopped well before their deaths, but this was in all cases due largely to health issues; one might have thought that it was even more simply down to Anno Domini (they died respectively at 109, 103, 99, 98 and 96) were it not for the continuing creativity of Carter (now approaching 99). Another nonogenarian, Havergal Brian, stopped some years before his death at the age of 96, but this was apparently because (according to him) he had no more to say.

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« Reply #7 on: 15:35:52, 02-07-2007 »

Which other composers have retired, btw? It's an interestingly rare phenomenon. Gordon Crosse did, I think

Yes he did. I remember when I first met him (about 1984) he had just taken the decision to. I think it was just a sober realisation that, in his own view, he had run out of things to say. He subsequently went into IT, as I remember. Fair enough, but a shame because there are a lot of very good Crosse works out there.
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« Reply #8 on: 15:37:07, 02-07-2007 »

Another nonogenarian, Havergal Brian, stopped some years before his death at the age of 96, but this was apparently because (according to him) he had no more to say
... which for someone who'd already been saying the same thing for around 40 years is a curious admission. Roll Eyes

Nonetheless, Alistair, you're quite right that composers don't usually retire, even if there are cases like Sibelius where the output grinds to a halt. But that's exactly why I was asking for examples of composers who consciously decided to retire. Ferguson and Crosse are two of those few.

a shame because there are a lot of very good Crosse works out there.
In that case isn't it better that he didn't mar the integrity of the worklist with inferior pieces? I think it's quite a brave decision, and certainly a very self-aware one - although always accompanied by the inevitable possibility that he might have underestimated himself (after all, there are plenty of examples of the opposite case!).
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« Reply #9 on: 15:53:12, 02-07-2007 »

Another nonogenarian, Havergal Brian, stopped some years before his death at the age of 96, but this was apparently because (according to him) he had no more to say
... which for someone who'd already been saying the same thing for around 40 years is a curious admission. Roll Eyes
By your use of the phrase "the same thing" here I presume you to refer to the music he'd been writing during that period rather than that he'd been telling people for 40 years that he'd nothing more to say but carried on saying it nevertheless(!). I don't think that Brian's last 40 years was as bad as you imply, but I do agree that he never at any time before or since went anywhere near scaling the heights that he achieved between the wars. The "Gothic" Symphony, despite never having yet received a performance worthy of its content, is, to my mind, one of the finest symphonies ever written by an Englishman and the handful of symphonies that immediately followed it most certainly deserve more and better exposure than they've ever had; sadly, however, there's not a whole lot else in his output that I've heard that seems to suggest anything like the importance of some of his contemporaries and compatriots and it rather strikes me that he just continued to write and write with insufficient regard either for the value or the practicality of what he was doing (and for those who have only heard some of the baseless rumours, I should perhaps add that most of his 32 symphonies are on nowhere near the scale of the first few). The enthusiastic support of the late Robert Simpson and the more recent advocacy and scholarship of Malcolm MacDonald have done much to try to bring Brian's work into focus but, as yet, the best works still aren't gaining the acceptance they deserve and a more widespread knowledge of the very existence of the sheer amount of the rest is probably not helping his case any.

Nonetheless, Alistair, you're quite right that composers don't usually retire, even if there are cases like Sibelius where the output grinds to a halt. But that's exactly why I was asking for examples of composers who consciously decided to retire. Ferguson is indeed one of those few.
I take your point yet, in so doing, it occurs to me that the matter may just be that little bit more complex again than you suggest. Composers who consciously decide to retire is one thing, but what I think you're really after here is composers who have not merely taken but also publicly announced such a decision; even Sibelius might have consciously decided to retire, for all that we can ever hope to know, but he certainly kept very quiet about it if so (and there was no obvious health issue in his case as there was, to some degree, with Ives).

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« Reply #10 on: 23:33:29, 24-07-2007 »

Howard Ferguson's editions of key board music are excellent and informative. I've got a couple of them and, as it happens, I got his Early English Keyboard Music Vol 2 out of the library yesterday. I look forward to making a mess of the pieces in it.

I went to a BBC lunchtime concert which celebrated his 90th birthday. He was there in the audience. I think I've got a recording of the concert somewhere so must try to dig it out.
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« Reply #11 on: 14:52:12, 27-10-2008 »

Bearing in mind the recent posts concerning Ferguson elsewhere, perhaps it's time to reopen this thread.

I've just been listening to Amore langueo, first performed at the 1956 Three Choirs Festival, as well as two recordings of the piano concerto. The 1956 piece (for tenor solo, semi-chorus, chorus and orchestra) was his op.18, and thus his penultimate work.

I wonder whether the composer was beginning to feel that his time was already past: for all its craftsmanship, the piece harks back to an earlier age. Indeed, its language is highly reminiscent of the 'By the waters of Babylon' sequences from Walton's Belshazzar's Feast; the least advanced passages of a seminal work first performed a full quarter of a century previously.

 Perhaps he sensed that what suited that most conservative of festivals was increasingly out of step with what was going on around him: possibly, the death of his great friend Finzi in the same year influenced his decision, too. Moreover, Vaughan Williams was dead by the time his final work was performed, and even within a rather insular Britain the musical landscape was starting to shift perceptibly. Established composers were altering their language; Britten was moving towards a terser, dark style; Tippett, similarly, away from the ecstatic richness which had energised his post-war works. Walton was beginning to sense that he had lost direction, and would soon approach a younger serialist (Humphrey Searle, who had studied with Webern) for lessons and advice.

 Based as he was at the RAM during this period, Ferguson must have been very aware not only of these changes, but also, almost certainly, of the more startling developments further afield.
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« Reply #12 on: 17:33:24, 27-10-2008 »

Quite apart from any reasons that Ron has cited, this statement (from Currently working on...)

Most commentators make it plain that Ferguson felt that he had said all he had to say as a composer once he had completed his Op.19

does have merit. Having learnt both the Concerto (Op. 12) and the Sonata (Op. 8 ), the parallels are immediately obvious; there are some melodic shapes in both which are identical. He was literally repeating himself, even well before Op. 19.

two recordings of the piano concerto.

I presume one is the Donohoe Naxos, but what's the other one?
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« Reply #13 on: 18:11:53, 27-10-2008 »

Having learnt both the Concerto (Op. 12) and the Sonata (Op. 8 )

And by 'learnt' I can confirm Eru really does mean learnt here. The big Op 8 Sonata (as indeed the rest of his recent recital) performed from memory <thudstofloorinawedadmirationemoticom>. 
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« Reply #14 on: 18:36:52, 27-10-2008 »

Yes, Eru, one is the Naxos: the other is an EMI British Composers issue (Shelley/CoLS/Hickox). Somewhere in the Dough Archives there's an off-air Dream of the Rood, too: possibly the deleted Chandos recording; a rather staid, monochrome setting of a wonderfully quasi-psychedelic take on the Holy Cross's experience of the crucifixion, seen in the terms of a Saxon warrior's henchman's rules of loyalty: there's the original, with a choice of translation or glossary, here.


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