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« Reply #15 on: 19:02:10, 15-07-2007 » |
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# 12 Onwards and downwards, Ian.
Indeed, Celia Johnson did smoke cigarettes. As I did, too, until the Royal College of Surgeons' Report of the early 70's. Fact is that you will always be a smoker but, in due course, you will stop thinking about it.
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« Reply #16 on: 19:29:52, 15-07-2007 » |
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# 13 My pleasure, MabelJane.
Celia Johnson preferred working on stage but would only commit herself to a 6 month run in any play.
In the 60's, I remember her Mm Ranevskaya in "The Cherry Orchard" at Chichester; playing opposite Michael Hordern in Alan Ackybourn's "Relatively Speaking" and Judith Bliss in the RNT's "Hay Fever." However, my first memory was when she replaced Peggy Ashcroft as Hester Collyer in Rattigan's "The Deep Blue Sea" and she was magnificent.
Lindsay Anderson told me how she could irritate him during the "Cherry Orchard" rehearsals as she would quietly sit, fully engrossed by The Times crossword. "Dammit, when her cue came, she put down the paper, entered the scene and played to near perfection."
Like Wendy Hiller, she arrived prepared and ready for work - and did so without fuss or ceremony.
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« Reply #17 on: 21:53:23, 15-07-2007 » |
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We share Member Grew's appreciation of the Rackmyaninnov passage cited and would like to add the following marvellous moments: (everything about the above is marvellous, as is the rest of the piece) Prelude in A major Op. 32 No. 9 From the slow movement of the Fourth Piano Concerto But, may we ask Member Grew, what would Brahms have said? Whilst we (that's to say the staff at The Sorabji Archive) have no idea what Brahms would have said about any of the above, we are nevertheless indebted at least as much to Member Pace for providing the above examples as we remain to Member Grew for supplying the earlier ones - and most of those given to us by the Member Pace (the gloriously sensuous and delightfully amenable to the hands as to the eye as to the ear as to the soul extract from the deliciously lovely A major Prelude excepted) are from that later period in Rakhmaninov's ever-burgeoning creativity that was so signally celebrated by the majority of the critics of the time as the music of one of the world's universally acknowledged greatest pianists who nonethessles had nothing new to say as a composer but continued occasionally to say it regardless; as a composer (but absolutely no kind of pianist) myself, I can say to that only that, if I could only attain but the tiniest proportion of Sergey Vasilyevich's superlative grasp of the piano, orchestral sophistication and structural wonders and had nothing new to say as potently and convincingly as he said "nothing new" during those inter-War years, I'd be a very happy chappie indeed! No chance! The Member Pace might be a little upset to note that Sorabji was one of the very few people in Britain who continued enthusiastically to champion Rakhmaninov the composer during this time and in the years following SVR's death and who had known and followed SVR's career as a composer from the early years of the last century to the point at which he considered writing a piano piece based upon that composer's famous Vocalise duing his final year (1988) but did not do so due to physical frailty alone; in the SVR centenary year, he laughed out loud at those who suddenly seemed to be discovering for the first time that SVR was actually a major composer in many fields of music - something which he had known well for almost 70 years at that time - but at the same time he celebrated it joyously. He it was, incidentally, who first talked to me of SVR's Francesca da Rimini, a work that I had, shamefully, not even heard of at the time (1972); "if only people knew just this one work alone", he said to me, "Rakhmaninov's reputation would be reinstated at a stroke"... Best, Alistair
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« Reply #18 on: 22:45:07, 15-07-2007 » |
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I don't know if this is Mr Grew's thing, but concerning his fascination with the half- diminished chord, does he know Chopin's E min piano concerto? Seventeen bars into the piano part there is an F# half dim chord, with an appogiatura-ish B in the melody resolving to an A, which when I first heard it (a long time ago) completely stopped me in my tracks. For the first few times I heard it indeed, it was the moment in the concerto I looked forward to most, and if any performance I heard seemed to be insensitive to that moment, it had to go a long way in the rest of the performance to recoup lost validity as far as I was concerned. The chord seemed so warm and full of desire. Then a slight shuffle of the cards and you have a min 6 chord, which can feel so much colder and darker (those mesmeric, juddering chords at the beginning of Mahler 7 for example). As far as Rachmaninov and his marvellous moments go (did you know that nasty Stravinsky man called him Rach-not-man-enough? Sounds like one of the member's own. ) how about the meltingly lovely opening of the Adagio in his second symphony? Yum. And sob. His sound world always seems so personal and distinct.
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« Reply #19 on: 01:14:05, 16-07-2007 » |
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Rachmaninoff's least marvellous moment was dying from lung cancer, brought on by all the cigarettes he smoked..... (sorry guys, just have to keep reminding myself of such things! )
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« Reply #20 on: 06:58:58, 16-07-2007 » |
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Rachmaninov excelled in the genre of the Romance (the term by which the "melodie/Lied" repertoire is known in Russian), although sadly this body of his work is rarely heard outside Russia. This is doubly frustrating since it represents the concentrated essence of his composition, with only the simple resources of voice & piano to display the entire range of emotions and ideas required. These songs are true duet performances, with no element of the "vocal line plus accompaniment" which marks some of the rest of the "Romance" repertoire. If we are looking for a "Most Marvellous Moment" among the songs, then THE ANGEL would be my personal choice, but I AM NO PROPHET, and IN THE GARDEN BY NIGHT would be strong contenders. However, if you are feeling emotionally strong, then KHRISTOS VOSKRES' ("Christ Is Risen") would be the song of Rachmaninov's I'd direct you to.... if you are up to the bitter, heart-gnawing angst in Merezhovsky's text Khristos voskres poiut vo khrame; No grustno mne... dusha molchit. Mir polon krov'iu i slezami, I etot himn pred altarjami Tak oskorbitel'no zvuchit. Kogda-by On byl mezh nas i videl, Chego dostig nash slavnyj vek, Kak brata brat voznenavidel, Kak opozoren chelovek, I esli by zdes', v blestyaschem khrame "Khristos voskres" On uslykhal, Kakimi by gor'kimi slezami, Pered tolpoi On, zaridal! "Christ Is Risen!" they're singing in Church; But it's misery for me... My soul stays silent. This world is steeped in blood and tears, So the sound of that Hymn at the altar Rings like a bitter insult.
If He were among us and saw The "achievements" of our "glorious" age - How brother despises brother, How despicable is Man; And if He heard In this gleaming Church This "Christ Is Risen!" Oh, what acrid tears He would shed Before the multitude!(trans - R Torheit)
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« Reply #21 on: 08:49:45, 16-07-2007 » |
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Absolutely agreed on the songs, Reiner. Some favourite Russian song recitals which include plenty of Rachmaninov: Actually, Brilliant Classics has recently released the complete Chandos set of songs (3CDs) at a very attractive price, though I doubt there will be texts and translations.
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« Reply #22 on: 12:36:56, 16-07-2007 » |
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To all the Marvellous Moments mentioned above, I would like to add: Piano Concerto no.4, 1st Movement Fig.20 and 21 (on pages 25 and 26 of the following score) http://imslp.ca/images/imslp.ca/a/ae/Rachmaninov_Concerto_No.4_part1.pdfSymphony no.3, 1st Movement, 1st Subject The Bells, 2nd Movement - the soprano solo from mid-way to the end. I would be more specific but I don't have the score...
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« Reply #23 on: 14:17:43, 16-07-2007 » |
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A much needed reissue is the Decca CD set of Rachmaninov Songs performed by Elisabeth Soderstrom, accompanied by Vladimir Ashkenazy, in a wide selection which includes a song version of Sonya's final speech in Uncle Vanya. John Shirley-Quirk joins them for Two Partings. Recorded between 1974/79, the performance is incandescent.
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« Reply #24 on: 14:24:47, 16-07-2007 » |
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« Reply #25 on: 14:56:31, 16-07-2007 » |
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Ta very much, Ron.
Exit, pursued by a bear.
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« Reply #26 on: 15:08:18, 16-07-2007 » |
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# 24 and 25 Pursuit most successful. Order now placed and I thank you for your initiative on my behalf.
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« Reply #27 on: 22:22:54, 17-07-2007 » |
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I love Rachmaninov Orchestral works, but I just get completely transfixed by a CD I own of Rachmaninov's Ampico Roll Recordings (Sergei himself playing Rachmaninov, and some Rachy arrangements of Schubert, Rimsky, Smith and Kreisler)
I have to give a special nod to Op.3 Cinq Morceau de Fantasie.
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« Reply #28 on: 23:26:01, 17-07-2007 » |
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Perhaps not exactly a 'moment' but a small and rarely-heard gem: the last of the 'Three Russian Folksongs" for chorus and orchestra, Op 41 (1925). It's a wonderfully non-PC folksong about wife-beating which R also arranged as a solo song (it's in the Soderstrom set). R also made a startling recording of it with a gypsy-ish singer Nadezhda Plevitskaya. I was tempted to buy the RCA complete 'R as pianist' box the other day just to get this track! While on the subject of wife-beating tonight I read in Ian MacDonald's 'The New Shostakovich': "wife-beating was thoroughly institutionalised in pre-revolutionary Russia. A sixteenth century Russian manual of etiquette offers instructions to the Muscovite husband 'in the technique of beating his wife: this must be done courteously, lovingly, and in such a way neither to blind her nor to render her permanently deaf'! So, temporary deafness is fine - I'm glad that's clear. Any chance of an English edition of this valuable treatise? - I'm sure there's still a need We are of course confident that his apparently high regard for this particular folk-song does not reflect badly on the domestic arrangements our own dear Sergei
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'the poem made of rhubarb in the middle and the surround of bubonic marzipan'
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« Reply #29 on: 19:59:52, 19-07-2007 » |
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The Coda section of the Piano Concerto No. 3, played by Ashkenazy (although for the whole thing Volodos is tops) with André Previn conducting LSO (I think that's the right orchestra).Anyway, that's my favourite Rachmaninov moment ... well, all-time favourite too.
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