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oliver sudden
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« Reply #30 on: 23:17:43, 10-09-2007 »
There's also that processional bass line in the minor which goes tonic, third, tonic up the octave, third, lower tonic again. He uses that a heck of a lot - Reiner do you know Dernier Poème?
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« Reply #31 on: 23:18:42, 10-09-2007 »
Meantime here is Anja Silja in the Madame de Croissy Death Scene

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_D-_k8oAXqU
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« Reply #32 on: 23:42:10, 10-09-2007 »
Quote from: oliver sudden on 23:17:43, 10-09-2007
There's also that processional bass line in the minor which goes tonic, third, tonic up the octave, third, lower tonic again. He uses that a heck of a lot - Reiner do you know Dernier Poème?

That one is from Symphony of Psalms...  Wink

See also 1st mt of Oboe Sonata. (Mart, agreed, it's the best of the wind sonatas - more flautists should play it! Grin)

Reiner - I must check out which piano piece you are referring to - there are no preludes, as far as I know. Ollie, the Flute Sonata was written at about the same time as Carmelites and I always think of that last movement as a futile attempt to escape from deep depression (which he had when writing the opera) by throwing oneself into some useless activity - so maybe some subconscious 'inescapable fate motif' ?

I'm always puzzled by the Gloria quote in the 1st mt of the clarinet sonata.

Here's another pic - he looks cheerful here, but you can see he has a screw loose...
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« Reply #33 on: 06:11:34, 11-09-2007 »
Hi Roslyn

I may be wrong on the title of the piano piece - it could be an Etude or something similar?  It's in G-major in 4/4, it begins with open g-major triads in both RH and LH, straight to a c-maj chord (with a G-pedal added underneath), and then the "concept" of the piece is that it moves along in parallel 3-note chords in both hands.  Frankly I learnt it when I was still a kid at school for Associated Board Grade VI, and have never really forgotten the piece... except its name Wink  It moves into 3/4 for the CARMELITES quotation at the end.

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« Reply #34 on: 07:56:17, 11-09-2007 »
Sounds like the last Nocturne - I learnt it for Grade 6 too! And yes, I can "hear" that Carmelites reference now - twenty years before the opera!!!
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« Reply #35 on: 08:21:57, 11-09-2007 »
Aha! That passage at the end of the last Nocturne is indeed quoting something though. Not the opera, which as rm points out came later, but... the end of the first Nocturne. Smiley I have to admit than in contrast to Reiner I can only hear that as what absolutely, inevitably has to come at exactly that moment...

I think even I might be able to get my fingers around some of that. Must investigate.
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