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Peeling off from the increasingly wayward Philip Glass thread; intended as a place to talk about all that great American music that rarely gets an airing here in Euroland. Listening recommendations are particularly encouraged.
Talk about: Tenney! Sessions! Rouse! Nancarrow! Ashley! Partch! Menotti!
Leave for other threads: Carter! Babbitt! Cage! Feldman! Copland! Glass! Reich! Adams!
You get the idea...
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« Reply #1 on: 16:19:51, 17-09-2007 » |
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Talk about: Tenney! Sessions! Rouse! Nancarrow! Ashley! Partch! Menotti! Gann?  |
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« Reply #2 on: 16:29:40, 17-09-2007 » |
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OK, here's a thought.
Nancarrow's player piano studies are easily transferred to MIDI controlled pianos, so why don't we hear more live performances of these fantastic pieces? Just imagine: your university/concert hall owns something like the Yamaha Disklavier, why not put on a performance of Nancarrow (and other composers) - no performer, no performer's fee, wonderful music.
Why not?
Anyone fancy putting on a performance of Partch's Water Water next year?
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« Reply #3 on: 16:42:35, 17-09-2007 » |
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Good thinking, Tim !
It may seem strange for a Brit kid in the early/mid 60s, but my introduction to (and enthusiasm for) the kind of music that would annoy my elders and squarers was encouraged by Ives rather than anything European. To this day I find his imagination (and his ear) quite staggering and his music has always seemed to encourage the widest ranging compositional licence - which is why I initiated a thread to find if others shared my view. Increasing familiarity with Ruggles, Cowell, Varese, Crawford, Ornstein, early Antheil, Rudhyar, Partch, Brant, Cage + Harrison over the next ten years seemed to confirm that there was oodles of first-rate but severely underpublicised (over here at any rate) pre-1945 work from USA. Got on far less well, though, with what I viewed as the European-orientated modernists - Riegger, Sessions, Carter, Babbitt . . .
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From having spent too much time on the Phil Glass thread I'd completely overlooked this one.
The list of american composers above missed out Stefan Wolpe. I'm interested in gaining knowledge about Stefan Wolpe , BUT does he count as a German or as an US american composer???
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« Reply #5 on: 22:12:58, 19-09-2007 » |
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and how do you make the text bigger?
Above the "reply" field amongst the icons there is one with a letter "A" and an up/down arrow. If you mark the text you want enlarged and then click it, you will find tags added with a font-size, set by default to 10-pt. Change this to whatever size you prefer, and you can have larger, or smaller text  |
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« Reply #7 on: 16:42:55, 20-09-2007 » |
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"I was, for several months, mutely in love with a coloratura soprano, who seemed to me to have wafted straight from Paradise to the stage of the Odessa Opera-House"
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« Reply #10 on: 14:09:42, 22-09-2007 » |
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Peeling off from the increasingly wayward Philip Glass thread; intended as a place to talk about all that great American music that rarely gets an airing here in Euroland. Listening recommendations are particularly encouraged.
Talk about: Tenney! Sessions! Rouse! Nancarrow! Ashley! Partch! Menotti!
Leave for other threads: Carter! Babbitt! Cage! Feldman! Copland! Glass! Reich! Adams!
You get the idea...
We wish to state for the record that despite attempting the music of many of these men we have never discovered anything approaching first-rate. We believe that disproportionate attention is given to their inferior efforts simply because the population of their country is disproportionately large; and also perhaps because a form of English is spoken there. More attention should be given we think to the just as rarely performed but much more deserving music of composers from several European countries. |
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« Reply #11 on: 14:14:59, 22-09-2007 » |
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More attention should be given we think to the just as rarely performed but much more deserving music of composers from several European countries. We are interested to know what Member Grew's recommendations would be in this respect? |
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