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Bryn
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« Reply #15 on: 08:32:03, 23-09-2007 »

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Lord grant that Marshal Wade
May by thy mighty aid
Victory bring.
May he sedition hush,
And like a torrent rush,
Rebellious Scots to crush.
God save the Queen!

Wink
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« Reply #16 on: 09:36:46, 23-09-2007 »

Inaccuracy? We see no inaccuracy. As almost always in what we write we see accuracy of a standard seldom approached by other contributors. We wrote "England" we meant "England" and we intended to write "England." We have little interest in the far-flung bits and pieces of the Isles, nor in the concept of political Nations. Leave those to the footle-ballers please!

Perhaps Mr. Dough despite his evident provincial obscurity will still be able to track down a copy of C.F.G. Masterman's magnificent 1909 publication "The Condition of England." Therein if so he will find a fine description of the reality of Life in the country.


I will simply acknowledge receipt of this retort and leave it to others to draw their own conclusions regarding its civility, validity and veracity.

Accuracy, it appears, is in the eye of the beholder....
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Sydney Grew
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« Reply #17 on: 12:02:42, 23-09-2007 »

Since above we made passing mention of Charles Frederick Gurney Masterman, this his photograph may interest Members; he was as is at once therefrom evident a virile Englishman of the finest type, and indeed a Wimbledon man and M.P.


His "Condition of England" expresses fears - well-founded of course - for a nation acquiring social improvements without spiritual renewal. He cites Carlyle's passage likening great cities in their erection to works of music:

"Swept into aggregations by the demand of the newest industries, the clay and stone has been hastily fashioned into place for human habitation. And now these stand today, made by, and yet making, the temper and characteristic of the people. Here the normal standard is a four-roomed cottage; there "back to back" houses ravage the health of their inhabitants; here again huge piles of tenements encompass the bewildered occupants in a kind of human ant-heap; there the ancient dwellings of the wealthy or comfortable classes have been "swarmed out" by the busy people. Carlyle pictured mankind flowing, as it were, through the visible arena of material things. A wave of humanity beats through these solid constructions; it vanishes, another succeeds. 'Orpheus built the walls of Thebes by the mere sound of his lyre. Who built these walls of Weissnichtwo, summoning out all the sandstone rocks to dance and shape themselves into Doric and Ionic Pillars, squared ashlar houses, and noble streets?' All cities are thus built 'to music.' What discordant melody today is responsible for the creation of Jarrow, or Salford, or Canning Town?"
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« Reply #18 on: 12:08:20, 23-09-2007 »

Interesting that Pousseur makes your list, Sydney.

We know a few of his productions: Vocati, Symphonies, Scambi, Madrigal 2, Seventh View of the Forbidden Gardens, and (heard last year) the Stone Garland for voices and piano - interesting in parts but it does go on and on - more than an hour in length is it not?
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« Reply #19 on: 13:07:19, 24-09-2007 »

"Swept into aggregations by the demand of the newest industries, the clay and stone has been hastily fashioned into place for human habitation. And now these stand today, made by, and yet making, the temper and characteristic of the people. Here the normal standard is a four-roomed cottage; there "back to back" houses ravage the health of their inhabitants; here again huge piles of tenements encompass the bewildered occupants in a kind of human ant-heap; there the ancient dwellings of the wealthy or comfortable classes have been "swarmed out" by the busy people. Carlyle pictured mankind flowing, as it were, through the visible arena of material things. A wave of humanity beats through these solid constructions; it vanishes, another succeeds. 'Orpheus built the walls of Thebes by the mere sound of his lyre. Who built these walls of Weissnichtwo, summoning out all the sandstone rocks to dance and shape themselves into Doric and Ionic Pillars, squared ashlar houses, and noble streets?' All cities are thus built 'to music.' What discordant melody today is responsible for the creation of Jarrow, or Salford, or Canning Town?"
Aha! So it was from Masterman that the good Member acquired his distinctive habit of bold-facing, was it?!
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« Reply #20 on: 11:50:42, 26-09-2007 »

Aha! So it was from Masterman that the good Member acquired his distinctive habit of bold-facing, was it?!

The emphases are ours not Masterman's we should have said. It was the cottages which got us started Mr. Now - and once begun the bolding taking on a life of its own bore us unable to stop along.
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richard barrett
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« Reply #21 on: 12:02:02, 26-09-2007 »

It was the cottages which got us started
That's what they all say.
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« Reply #22 on: 13:22:55, 26-09-2007 »

The Belgian composers mentioned so far on this thread are all far too mainstream, middle-of-the-road and ingratiating for me, I'm afraid. Is there no one who can suggest some less well known names?
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« Reply #23 on: 13:31:07, 26-09-2007 »

Georg Mikkels (composer of De Kottagensymfonie)?
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« Reply #24 on: 13:35:42, 26-09-2007 »

Mijnheer Garnett, there's no pleasing some people. You obviously aren't spending enough time listening to Antwerp's Radio Centraal and in particular this highly edifying programme.
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« Reply #25 on: 13:42:18, 26-09-2007 »

Georg Mikkels (composer of De Kottagensymfonie)?

Apparently there was a performance in Minneapolis Airport, but you needed a private invitation.
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« Reply #26 on: 17:06:07, 26-09-2007 »

You obviously aren't spending enough time listening to Antwerp's Radio Centraal and in particular this highly edifying programme.
Ah yes, that's a bit more like it Grin even if recent editions have shown worrying signs that they are chasing the 'Friday Night is Music Night' demographic. 
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« Reply #27 on: 18:43:17, 26-09-2007 »


 It was the cottages which got us started Mr. Now - and once begun the bolding taking on a life of its own bore us unable to stop along.


A fascinating second half of sentence there Mr. Grew.
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« Reply #28 on: 19:08:41, 26-09-2007 »


 It was the cottages which got us started Mr. Now - and once begun the bolding taking on a life of its own bore us unable to stop along.


A fascinating second half of sentence there Mr. Grew.
Beautiful, isn't it?
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« Reply #29 on: 19:39:42, 26-09-2007 »

We find it nothing short of exquisite!  Cool
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