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Sydney Grew
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« on: 14:30:10, 22-09-2007 » |
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This is a place to talk about all the wonderful Belgian music which rarely gets a hearing in England.
Talk about: Peter Benoit, Michel Brusselmans, Willy Carron, August de Boeck, René Defossez, Godfried and Frederick Devreese, Paul Gilson, Albert Huybrechts, Joseph Jongen, André Laporte, Guillaume Lekeu, Claude Ledoux, Michel Lysight, Armand Marsick, Desiré Pâque, Flor Peeters, Marcel Poot, Henri Pousseur, Jean Rogister, Frederick van Rossum, Joseph Ryelandt, André-Jean Smit, Frank van der Stucken, Edgar Tinel, Renaat Veremans, and Eugène Ysaÿe!
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« Reply #1 on: 14:40:01, 22-09-2007 » |
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Funnily enough I was listening to this 4CD set of André Laporte, whom as far as I can remember I'd never previously heard of, just the other week. I didn't find anything in it that I'd be in any great rush to return to, but I'd be grateful for any enlightenment/encouragement. |
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« Reply #2 on: 14:49:12, 22-09-2007 » |
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Now I feel ignorant, only having heard of a handful of them. I'd add Philippe Boesmans, Luc Brewaeys, Peter Swinnen, Serge Verstockt and Stefan van Eycken amongst those to check out.
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'These acts of keeping politics out of music, however, do not prevent musicology from being a political act . . .they assure that every apolitical act assumes a greater political immediacy' - Philip Bohlman, 'Musicology as a Political Act'
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« Reply #3 on: 15:37:21, 22-09-2007 » |
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Now I feel ignorant, only having heard of a handful of them. I'll wager it's more than my 3  |
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« Reply #4 on: 15:46:31, 22-09-2007 » |
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Interesting that Pousseur makes your list, Sydney.
A few more details of recommended works from your collection of composers please !
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« Reply #5 on: 15:48:48, 22-09-2007 » |
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Er, who would count as mainstream Belgiana, then?  |
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« Reply #6 on: 15:55:06, 22-09-2007 » |
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Hopefully this thread will coax Pim Derks back to enlighten us ( haven't seen many posts from him lately ? )
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Ian Pace
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« Reply #7 on: 16:02:56, 22-09-2007 » |
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Er, who would count as mainstream Belgiana, then? Dufay? Binchois? Busnois? Ockeghem? Obrecht? Josquin? Agricola? Lassus? Grétry? Franck? Just realised that Karol Goeyvaerts hasn't been mentioned, also. |
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'These acts of keeping politics out of music, however, do not prevent musicology from being a political act . . .they assure that every apolitical act assumes a greater political immediacy' - Philip Bohlman, 'Musicology as a Political Act'
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« Reply #8 on: 16:26:46, 22-09-2007 » |
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Jongen is very good, I have a CD of his piano music, it's a bit like supercharged Debussy. I was recommended his Symphonie Concertante for Organ & Orchestra by someone at TOP and it's not quite as over the top as I'd expected!
Lekeu is very good as well, I have his Violin Sonata and it is well worth a listen. A shame he died so young.
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MrYorick
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« Reply #9 on: 17:33:02, 22-09-2007 » |
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I'm ashamed. I'm Belgian and I know very little about Belgian composers (The grass is always greener...).
Just thought I'd put in a word for Piet Swerts and Benoît Mernier. The latter is a pupil of Philippe Boesmans and he premiered his first opera last season at la Monnaie, Frühlings Erwachen, after the play by Wedekind, which I thought was very, very, very good.
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richard barrett
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« Reply #10 on: 17:42:13, 22-09-2007 » |
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In a somewhat more contemporary vein, I've heard impressive work by
Philippe Boesmans
Luc Brewaeys
Frederic Dhaene
Stefan van Eycken
Stefan Prins
Herman van San
Serge Verstockt
Belgium has only existed as a geopolitical entity since 1830, so their mainstream hasn't been flowing for very long.
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« Reply #11 on: 19:08:11, 22-09-2007 » |
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ah.. nice to see Peeters and Franck getting a mention.
I'd also like to name Jack Nikolaas Lemmens (sp?) another Belgian composer of organ music.
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What's empirical about sound? You can't write an article about it in die Reihe, that's for sure.
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« Reply #12 on: 22:34:49, 22-09-2007 » |
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This is a place to talk about all the wonderful Belgian music which rarely gets a hearing in England.
The poor old benighted colonial still hasn't the faintest idea about the the configuration of the old country, has he? Sydney, Sydney, Sydney: when will you ever learn that 'England' and 'Britain' are no more interchangeable concepts than 'Australia' and 'Penal Colony'. For someone who spends so much time trumpeting the precision of his logic, you do let yourself down so with these elementary (and offensive) inaccuracies. |
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Sydney Grew
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« Reply #13 on: 00:40:18, 23-09-2007 » |
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. . . these elementary . . . inaccuracies. Inaccuracy? We see no inaccuracy. As almost always in what we write we see accuracy of a standard seldom approached by other contributors. We wrote "England" we meant "England" and we intended to write "England." We have little interest in the far-flung bits and pieces of the Isles, nor in the concept of political Nations. Leave those to the footle-ballers please! Perhaps Mr. Dough despite his evident provincial obscurity will still be able to track down a copy of C.F.G. Masterman's magnificent 1909 publication "The Condition of England." Therein if so he will find a fine description of the reality of Life in the country. |
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« Reply #14 on: 01:24:53, 23-09-2007 » |
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Oh. To be in England. Now that Sydney's here.  |
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