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I bought another Honegger CD recently and have been listening to it with interest. It starts with 'Pacific 231', followed by 'Rugby' and others, including 'Camille Maurane'. I'm not sure what I think of it yet! and would be interested to hear others' opinions of this CD if they have it. EMI classic 0 77776 39442 8
I shall keep playing it for a few days.
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Ron Dough
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« Reply #1 on: 23:55:49, 03-06-2008 » |
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You had me worried there for a minute, Susan: Camille Maurane didn't ring any bells with me as a piece by Honegger: it's only after checking the catalogues I realise that she's a performer rather than one of the works on the disc, the Cantate de Noël, which I have on LP in that very performance, though I've not heard it for a long while. I love the Pastorale d'été, and Pacific 231 is a celebrated musical depictions of a large express steam locomotive, whilst Rugby, which I've only ever heard once so far as I can remember, describes the game rather than the school. High time I heard them all again, so I've just ordered a used copy from the States, and once it's here and heard, we'll have a talk about it. There are five symphonies too, and a couple of large-scale choral works, if you find that you take to him.
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« Reply #2 on: 00:28:56, 04-06-2008 » |
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Hm, I haven't listened to my Honegger set for a while. All I can ever remember is Pacific 231 and Rugby (both have some prominent tuba work just before the end), so I ought to listen to the symphonies and film music again
Incidentally, shouldn't that be translated into English as 'Pacific 4-6-2'?
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« Reply #3 on: 01:16:05, 04-06-2008 » |
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There are . . . a couple of large-scale choral works . . . May we say there are actually dozens, many still unpublished. He was a very prolific composer in that area or genre. Most of these works, while not exactly "incidental music," contain much matter spoken by a narrator; that is probably why they are seldom put on among the Anglo-Saxons, notorious for their monolingualism. |
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Ron Dough
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« Reply #4 on: 07:35:08, 04-06-2008 » |
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Yes, NB, in Anglo-Saxon locomotive parlance, the wheels are counted: on the continent, just the axles, so for us Pacifics have a small leading bogie of 4 wheels on 2 axles, 6 driving wheels on 3 axles and then 2 more trailing wheels on a single axle: the standard configuration for prestige express haulage for all British companies other than the Great Western (no relation to the appalling present mob, who have usurped their name) who built a large stud of extremely successful locomotives in 4-6-0 (Continental 230) formation.
And to Mr Grew: yes, I should perhaps have made it clear that I was referring to what was available on disc, though I'd guess that unlike many of us he may not have read what Susan has posted here on the subject of her restricted vision, and thus didn't understand that in her case we must perforce be restricted to what is available on disc. As it happens, of course, the record already mentioned contains one of the lesser-known choral works, though so far as the recording companies are concerned, Le Roi David and Jeanne d'Arc au Bûcher are all that is of commercial interest.
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SusanDoris
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« Reply #5 on: 19:00:13, 04-06-2008 » |
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There are . . . a couple of large-scale choral works . . . May we say there are actually dozens, many still unpublished. He was a very prolific composer in that area or genre. Most of these works, while not exactly "incidental music," contain much matter spoken by a narrator; that is probably why they are seldom put on among the Anglo-Saxons, notorious for their monolingualism. I have 'Le Roi David' which I bought a while ago and like it. After just listening a couple of times, I listened in sections, reading the text on my CCTV each time. The enunciation of the words is clear on the Cd. ETA Sorry about the slight confusion, Ron! There is so much written on the CD that I just picked out a few words here and there. My CCTV is in the lounge, so I read something, remember it and rush through to the other room where the computer is then type it in before I forget! |
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« Reply #6 on: 19:40:13, 04-06-2008 » |
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Something I'm not sure I mentioned on the Say Something Nice About Karajan thread:  His recording of the Honegger 2nd and 3rd symphonies is to my mind a wonderful thing even though I'm not really a fan of either Honegger or Karajan. So make what use you will of that information! |
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« Reply #7 on: 13:30:55, 10-07-2008 » |
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I'm quite a Honegger fan, and wish his music were played more. Apparently, nearly all his works were recorded during his lifetime (see Grove), some directed by him.
I got the know the 5th symphony in my teens, in the splendid Czech PO/Baudo recording (along with Pacific 231, Pastorale d'été and Chant de la Joie). I think I still prefer this to either the 3rd or 2nd symphonies, excellent though they are. The 2nd used to mean a lot to me when I was very depressed. I recently downloaded the Dutoit recordings of all the symphonies for a fiver (what a steal!) and I must say that No 4 (Deliciae Basiliensis) is a sheer delight from the first bar to the last. What poetry there is in the opening pages! That's worth a fiver on its own.
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« Reply #8 on: 13:41:25, 10-07-2008 » |
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I got the know the 5th symphony in my teens, in the splendid Czech PO/Baudo recording (along with Pacific 231, Pastorale d'été and Chant de la Joie).
Me, too! Excellent performances! I've not come across a better version of Pacific 231. |
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