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Author Topic: The most significant piano music of the 20th century  (Read 673 times)
Robert Dahm
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« Reply #30 on: 03:11:09, 09-10-2008 »

It would indeed. I certainly think that Vingt regards is up there, though. Also the Barraqué Sonata, Skryabin's sonatas 6–10 and op. 65 Études, Carter's Piano concerto, Ustvolskaya's six sonatas (as a collection), Ives Concord sonata, Dillon's Book of the elements III–V, Eonta, Synaphaï, Mists, Evryali and Herma of Xenakis, and a hundred others.

How many pieces are we looking for, here? Are we trying to find the One Piece That Changed Everything For Everyone?
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oliver sudden
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« Reply #31 on: 09:44:12, 09-10-2008 »

Ives Concord sonata, Dillon's Book of the elements III–V, Eonta, Synaphaï, Mists, Evryali and Herma of Xenakis, and a hundred others.

How many pieces are we looking for, here? Are we trying to find the One Piece That Changed Everything For Everyone?
Now either there's been a slipup on the italics front or that's a piece I didn't know that could radically change my ideas about Ives.
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« Reply #32 on: 17:30:40, 09-10-2008 »

About this Concord Mass by Ives, does it set the ordinary?


[Coat already off the peg.]
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Robert Dahm
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« Reply #33 on: 00:29:17, 10-10-2008 »

Indeed. Italicisation skills less than rad.

I'm wondering if either of the Glenn Gould Goldberg variations count as 20th century? They sure ain't Bach.
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Jonathan Powell
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« Reply #34 on: 19:58:55, 15-10-2008 »

I'm interested to know what you think might be the difference between 'personally significant' and just 'things that I like'.

The Messiaen, Feldman and Ligeti fall into both categories; I return to them often to listen to but they were doing new things, as far as I was concerned, and also encouraged me, as a non-musician and non-composer, to get hold of and study the scores, gaining some insight into what's going on. Whereas the Stockhausen pieces were my first introduction to contemporary piano music when I got an LP from the library many years ago, so they're significant for me but I don't listen to them now, except when there was a discussion here (about no 9 I think). There are pieces which I like but which aren't particularly significant personally eg Tippett's 2nd Sonata, Prokofiev's War Sonatas.

I think Prokofiev's middle sonatas *are* particularly significant, given a) their influence on subsquent Russian piano music (think Slonimsky, Shchedrin etc), and b) their extremely frequent international performances from pianists ranging from students to Richter and Gilels, and c) their central place in Prokofiev's output, and d) their frequent pianistic innovations. I like nos.6-7 only a little, and no.8 quite a bit more, by the way, so personal taste is not really an issue here.
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Ted Ryder
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« Reply #35 on: 13:36:40, 16-10-2008 »

Indeed. Italicisation skills less than rad.

I'm wondering if either of the Glenn Gould Goldberg variations count as 20th century? They sure ain't Bach.

   Naughty Mr Dahm you're having me on,the fellow's got his name on my CD! I have always understood that composition was written by a chap named Bach but in case I've been mis-informed I'd like to thank the gent who jotted down the notes recorded  by Glenn Gould in 1955 under the title of "Goldberg Variations". I reckon this unknown composer provided the music for perhaps the greatest piano disc of the 20th century. Smiley
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