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« Reply #60 on: 17:55:23, 17-12-2007 » |
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This tiresome thread seems (in addition to a few who comment from time to time) to be the domain of what might be termed a 'Gang of Four'. Not one of them (of course) has ever felt the need or desire to display any of their own music on this MB, yet they seem to be acting like a pack of wolves to cajole another member to display his.
Furthermore they know only too well that a) if the member concerned continues not to 'publish' anything here the mockery will continue; and b) if he does choose to do so (bearing in mind the way he has already described the nature of his quartets) it is likely that the fun will be turned away from him and on to the music he displays.
Fun is great as long as it is harmless, but this 'party-pooping' must surely by now be as tiresome to many others who read this thread as it has to be to the victim himself.
Baz
Oh, I think that's abit over the top, frankly. I can't speak for anyone else here but, as far as my own work is concerned, (a) I don't have the facility to display any and (b) I'm not at all pushy about it and have not been invited to do so (although I think I may have pointed people in the direction of some CDs of it a while back). The member Grew, on the other hand, has made some references to his quartets and there's no harm in asking if he'll share more about them with us, just as there'd be none in his replying and telling us that he either cannot (for technical reasons) and/or would rather not do that, but his silence leaves us in the dark as to what he might want to do. Best, Alistair |
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« Reply #61 on: 17:56:21, 17-12-2007 » |
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I'm not so sure this may not be precisely the reaction Dr Grew hoped for.
Anyway, Syd, sorry if you are hurt. I have said nothing. Look forward to further of your inimitable postings in due course.
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« Reply #62 on: 18:14:05, 17-12-2007 » |
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..The member Grew, on the other hand, has made some references to his quartets and there's no harm in asking if he'll share more about them with us, just as there'd be none in his replying and telling us that he either cannot (for technical reasons) and/or would rather not do that, but his silence leaves us in the dark as to what he might want to do...
No harm at all Alistair, but this thread has moved on from merely asking him to share his work with us to mocking harassment because he has not yet chosen to do so, and impatience to see it. He may not care to share it - has anybody ever thought or cared about that? Baz |
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« Reply #63 on: 18:18:29, 17-12-2007 » |
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Might I just pop my moderator's hat on here and mention that although much amusement has been had from member Hinton's versifications, I have had private contact from members asking me whether this isn't starting to move towards something resembling a form of personal attack. I have to say that I would very uncomfortable at the very least were I to be on the end of similar ongoing treatment. The point has now been made strongly and frequently enough, and there's a danger that under such constant pressure member Grew might just decide to stay away altogether, which I'm sure is a prospect that we'd all rather avoid.
I've forwarded some of my own music privately to two or three members here, but would certainly have qualms about posting it up for all and sundry: on the other hand, I've not said that I would do so. I realise that many members are avidly awaiting Mr Grew's posting of his work, but I would like to feel that the member will do so when he himself is ready, rather than as the result of shaming pressure from others.
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« Reply #64 on: 18:20:17, 17-12-2007 » |
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..The member Grew, on the other hand, has made some references to his quartets and there's no harm in asking if he'll share more about them with us, just as there'd be none in his replying and telling us that he either cannot (for technical reasons) and/or would rather not do that, but his silence leaves us in the dark as to what he might want to do...
No harm at all Alistair, but this thread has moved on from merely asking him to share his work with us to mocking harassment because he has not yet chosen to do so, and impatience to see it. He may not care to share it - has anybody ever thought or cared about that? Baz Well, again, I cannot speak for anyone else, but I'm certainly not seeking to harrass, still less mock, anyone here including our Sydney (even if I have expressed irritation in the past about his bizarrely unorthodox spellings of certain composers' names) and, whilst I am clearly not alone in having an interest in seeing something of what it is that he has himself referred to here, I have no real wish to force him to do so if he has genuine reasons for not doing so; all I would hope is that, having drawn attention to his work and received numerous responses of enquiry about it as a consequence, he at least posts here to tell us that he'd rather keep anything further about those pieces to himself (if that's what he wants to do) rather than adopt the silent position. That's all, really. Best, Alistair |
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« Reply #65 on: 18:27:21, 17-12-2007 » |
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Might I just pop my moderator's hat on here and mention that although much amusement has been had from member Hinton's versifications, I have had private contact from members asking me whether this isn't starting to move towards something resembling a form of personal attack.
Well, let me assure those member - and indeed all members here - that neither my doggerel that you have elevated by calling "versifications" not any other remarks that I've made here have been in any way intended as a personal attack upon anyone and that to construe in such a way is to miss their point entirely. The point has now been made strongly and frequently enough, and there's a danger that under such constant pressure member Grew might just decide to stay away altogether, which I'm sure is a prospect that we'd all rather avoid.
I'm sure that it has - just as I am sure that none of us would seek to encourage Member Grew to want to leave us. I've forwarded some of my own music privately to two or three members here, but would certainly have qualms about posting it up for all and sundry: on the other hand, I've not said that I would do so. I realise that many members are avidly awaiting Mr Grew's posting of his work, but I would like to feel that the member will do so when he himself is ready, rather than as the result of shaming pressure from others.
Again, I'm not seeking to shame him (or anyone else here) and I'm happy to wait and see; naturally, I'd prefer it if he told us that he'd rather keep in to himself but, as you rightly observe, the point has now been made. My intent was no more than to offer the kind of possible harmless amusement to which you have kindly referred - Ron Dough capriccioso, if you like... Best, Alistair |
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In response to Moderator Dough's message, may I state quite clearly that I would rather not even a note of SCGrew's quartets was posted here. I feel quite secure in my view that ignorance is bliss, in this instance. I have no great desire to see or hear more on SCGrew's compositional efforts, either here or elsewhere. SCGrew has my total support in this matter.
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« Reply #67 on: 19:50:50, 17-12-2007 » |
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In response to Moderator Dough's message, may I state quite clearly that I would rather not even a note of SCGrew's quartets was posted here. I feel quite secure in my view that ignorance is bliss, in this instance. I have no great desire to see or hear more on SCGrew's compositional efforts, either here or elsewhere. SCGrew has my total support in this matter.
I agree - with the exception that I (unlike you) actually would have been interested to see or hear some of Mr Grew's work (should he have chosen to share it). The rest of this thread is, however, a mindless bore, and I should be really grateful if it were to be LOCKED. Baz |
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« Reply #68 on: 20:03:46, 17-12-2007 » |
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As the initiator of this thread, I can assure Baz that it was introduced in a spirit of genuine interest. Here's my answer to Sydney on the Barraque thread http://r3ok.myforum365.com/index.php?topic=2271.msg77817#msg77817I'm firmly with Alistair in his message #60. I imagine that Sydney, no mean humourist himself, is probably enjoying this as much as anyone, at least I would hope so. Baz - the only sour note has been introduced by you. Rather than refer cryptically to a "gang of four" (in which I assume you include me), I suggest you PM those concerned with your objection. |
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« Reply #69 on: 20:09:51, 17-12-2007 » |
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Thank you autoharp - and sorry if you thought my interjection was the first "sour note". So, in order to clarify the thrust of this thread, here is your first initiating message... ". . . our own quartets, combining the best features of the styles of Mozart and Scryabine . . ." (quote from the Jean Barraque thread).
What are these quartets?
How many of them are there?
Are they for strings?
Are they performed?
Are they recorded?
The member has hinted at the existence of these quartets throughout this board's existence. It is high time, we feel, for Sydney Grew to satisfy the interest of his fellow-members and to "spill the beans", as it were.
I make no further comment - enough others ensued. Baz P.S. When your publisher receives the next piece from you, do you think you will have "spilled the beans" sufficiently to satisfy him? |
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« Reply #70 on: 20:28:37, 17-12-2007 » |
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Might I just pop my moderator's hat on here and mention that although much amusement has been had from member Hinton's versifications, I have had private contact from members asking me whether this isn't starting to move towards something resembling a form of personal attack.
Well, let me assure those member - and indeed all members here - that neither my doggerel that you have elevated by calling "versifications" not any other remarks that I've made here have been in any way intended as a personal attack upon anyone and that to construe in such a way is to miss their point entirely. That was already clear to me, Alistair.  |
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« Reply #71 on: 20:36:25, 17-12-2007 » |
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This tiresome thread seems (in addition to a few who comment from time to time) to be the domain of what might be termed a 'Gang of Four'.
 or  ? Here is a complete list of all my string quartets: |
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« Reply #72 on: 20:44:01, 17-12-2007 » |
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'ere, auto, wass this about your publisher? How come all the stuff on that there CD getting spun tomorrow is down as "Copyright Control", rather than a named publisher. Come on, spill them beans.
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« Reply #73 on: 20:53:13, 17-12-2007 » |
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« Reply #74 on: 20:59:09, 17-12-2007 » |
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The member Grew, on the other hand, has made some references to his quartets and there's no harm in asking if he'll share more about them with us, just as there'd be none in his replying and telling us that he either cannot (for technical reasons) and/or would rather not do that, but his silence leaves us in the dark as to what he might want to do.
This is my point of view as well. I have never sought to draw attention to my compositions in this forum. Others occasionally have, including your good self, Baz - for which thanks! |
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